This is definitely possible, we have had a few ad campaigns with apps as the
destination url. Let me check and get back on this thread.
Thanks
Rahul

On Fri, Sep 4, 2009 at 8:44 PM, Daniel Calife <cal...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Thanks for all that information.
>
> Im'm glad that you write about ads inside Orkut, since my last application
> was approved i have been trying to use adwords to promote it inside Orkut,
> but according to some rules in adwords it is impossible to use the
> orkut.com url in the ads, so its is impossible to do ads links the app
> inside Orkut.
>
> I also have been trying to reach some person from adwords team, without
> success. So if you Rahul have some contact with adwords people, please help
> us to address this problem.
>
> Thank you,
> Daniel
>
>  On Fri, Sep 4, 2009 at 8:25 AM, Rahul <opensocial.ra...@google.com>wrote:
>
>>  Hi Amitabh
>> Great to hear that you are developing apps and trying to understand better
>> the user base in different networks. Let me address couple of areas of
>> concern that have been rightly brought up over the past couple of days.
>>
>> 1. Incorrect 7d active number last week: One thing thats confusing you
>> (and everyone) over the past few days has been the incorrect users/week
>> number in the app info page. This was because of a bug that was fixed
>> yesterday. Now the 7d active number is accurate and represents the active
>> users that accessed the canvas view of the app in the past 7 days.
>>
>> 2. App directory ranking: The app directory ranking depends on overall
>> installs, installs and uninstalls in the past week, canvas renders in the
>> past week, and few others with different weights for each such attribute. We
>> currently dont include 7d users as a signal (in the future we will), hence
>> even though the 7d number was incorrect, the app directory ranking was
>> accurate and did not change. Our goal is to make the ranking dynamic and
>> support new apps that are growing fast, in addition to showcasing the
>> already popular apps. We will continue to evolve the ranking function and
>> make UI improvements to the directory to better showcase all kinds of apps.
>>
>> 3. Ask Friends ratio of installs to actives: If you look at MindJolt games
>> as you cited, the ratio of total installs (1M) to 7d actives (87k -
>> corrected number) is typical. If you look at Ask Friends with 21M installs
>> to 89k 7d actives - the ratio is not typical. There is a reason for this.
>> Ask Friends was the first orkut feature (launched in some locales) that we
>> have now converted to an OpenSocial app. Since it was already a feature
>> enabled for a large number of  users, it shows an install base of 21M. The
>> 89k is the true representation of the number of active users for the app.
>> There have been uninstalls on the app which will decrease the 21M user
>> number over time.
>>
>> 4. How to grow apps on orkut: Activity streams are by far the most
>> effective way of getting more users for your app. So do design your activity
>> update really carefully and needless to say, make it social. You can use
>> sendmessage to send invites for your app to your friends. You could also do
>> ads (paid) on orkut that link to your app. The directory is also important,
>> but I'd say activity streams are most effective. In order to have a lot of
>> activities generated initially, its important to nurture an initial seed of
>> users (your family group, your company team, etc).
>>
>> 5. We are working towards making apps a more integral part of the orkut
>> experience, offering more APIs and providing the right tools to developers
>> to help manage them.
>>
>> Hope this clarifies some of the numbers you are looking at in the past
>> week. We are sorry for the inconvenience and look forward to great apps from
>> you. If you have questions, feedback or feature suggestions, please do
>> continue to share them on this group or directly at
>> opensocial.ra...@google.com.
>>
>> Thanks
>> Rahul
>>
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Sep 1, 2009 at 4:45 PM, Amitabh Sharma 
>> <sharma.amit...@gmail.com>wrote:
>>
>>> Hey all,
>>>                      I have been developing an application for orkut , i
>>> have looked at other networks too and i know each and everyone of them have
>>> a niche of users with their own set of preferences, but orkut users and
>>> their preferences are totally out of my understanding.
>>>
>>> Since orkut does not allow multiple invitations, and from what i
>>> understand the number of news feeds per user per day for an application is
>>> also limited (of course for better user experience), but as a developer how
>>> do you approach this ? I mean the stats in the application directory have
>>> absolutely baffled me, there are apps with hundreds of thousands of install
>>> and mere hundreds of weekly active users ?
>>>
>>> For example the current listing in app directory as of 1st September
>>> 11:03 AM GMT,
>>>
>>> 1)  Ask Friends   :   Installs -  21633162
>>>                              usage/wk - 7643 users
>>>
>>> 2) MindJolt Games : Installs 1057557
>>>                               usage/wk - 771 users
>>>
>>> and so on..
>>>
>>> I mean i cannot understand why the apps with hundreds of hours of
>>> development and refinement seem to unable to retain users ?
>>> Is something missing from the developer's who are unable to understand
>>> the requirements and fill those loop holes or is just the strictness of
>>> orkut as platform to allow more viral behavior of applications ?
>>>
>>>
>>> I once heard a successful app developer on facebook say once that for
>>> every one app user you should get at least get 1.2 more users by invitation
>>> or viral feed. They got notifications too, so every time new levels are
>>> added to game the user gets notification saying "Hey we got new stuff! check
>>> it out !"
>>>
>>> I am totally confused on how to make applications viral on network as
>>> populous as orkut and yet it's user base remains most unreachable for most
>>> developers.
>>>
>>> I would really appreciate if other developers can share their experience
>>> of developing and running apps. And may be any tips on understanding users
>>> better and reaching them.
>>>
>>> Thanks
>>> - Amit
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> Rahul S. Kulkarni
>> Product Manager | Google Inc
>>
>>
>>
>
>
> --
> Daniel Calife
> www.colorcubegames.net
>
>
> >
>


-- 
Rahul S. Kulkarni
Product Manager | Google Inc

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