Hello Daniel, i only could run ads on Orkut, using adwords, after a person from adwords Brasil contacted me. She said that there is a bug that keep rejecting the orkut url, so i create the ad and she approved it manually. I dont have her direct contact, she call me.
I run the campaing for only a few days, i dont think it worth the cost. Good luck, Daniel Calife On Mon, Oct 19, 2009 at 2:20 AM, Daniel <daniel.ka...@gmail.com> wrote: > > Daniel and Rahul, > > Can you guys let me know how you went about doing an adwords campaign > for the orkut app? I have an orkut app as well and the system won't > let me run a campaign because of the "display url". I've seen multiple > complaints about this. Let me know what the fix is. > > Thanks! > > Daniel > > > On Sep 14, 3:33 am, Rahul <opensocial.ra...@google.com> wrote: >> Hey Daniel, >> As I mentioned in the previous mail, there are a number of factors that go >> into ranking - absolute numbers, rate of growth, latency, et al. If you are >> seeing some apps 'out of nowhere' - its possible that they are getting added >> and used a lot in the past few days. We compute the rankings daily. >> >> Hope this helps. >> >> Thanks >> Rahul >> >> >> >> >> >> On Wed, Sep 9, 2009 at 10:58 PM, Daniel Calife <cal...@gmail.com> wrote: >> > Hi, i could talk to people from adwords and now apps ads are running on >> > Orkut. >> >> > But i still have some questions about the app directory ranking. >> >> > How often is it updated? >> >> > Why, sometimes, do appear some applications out of nowhere to the first >> > page or second? This happened today on the PT ranking, games category. >> >> > What is the most important stats to the ranking? >> >> > Thank you, >> > Daniel Calife >> >> > On Mon, Sep 7, 2009 at 3:15 AM, Rahul <opensocial.ra...@google.com> wrote: >> >> >> This is definitely possible, we have had a few ad campaigns with apps as >> >> the destination url. Let me check and get back on this thread. >> >> Thanks >> >> Rahul >> >> >> On Fri, Sep 4, 2009 at 8:44 PM, Daniel Calife <cal...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >> >>> Thanks for all that information. >> >> >>> Im'm glad that you write about ads inside Orkut, since my last >> >>> application was approved i have been trying to use adwords to promote it >> >>> inside Orkut, but according to some rules in adwords it is impossible to >> >>> use >> >>> the orkut.com url in the ads, so its is impossible to do ads links the >> >>> app inside Orkut. >> >> >>> I also have been trying to reach some person from adwords team, without >> >>> success. So if you Rahul have some contact with adwords people, please >> >>> help >> >>> us to address this problem. >> >> >>> Thank you, >> >>> Daniel >> >> >>> On Fri, Sep 4, 2009 at 8:25 AM, Rahul >> >>> <opensocial.ra...@google.com>wrote: >> >> >>>> Hi Amitabh >> >>>> Great to hear that you are developing apps and trying to understand >> >>>> better the user base in different networks. Let me address couple of >> >>>> areas >> >>>> of concern that have been rightly brought up over the past couple of >> >>>> days. >> >> >>>> 1. Incorrect 7d active number last week: One thing thats confusing you >> >>>> (and everyone) over the past few days has been the incorrect users/week >> >>>> number in the app info page. This was because of a bug that was fixed >> >>>> yesterday. Now the 7d active number is accurate and represents the >> >>>> active >> >>>> users that accessed the canvas view of the app in the past 7 days. >> >> >>>> 2. App directory ranking: The app directory ranking depends on overall >> >>>> installs, installs and uninstalls in the past week, canvas renders in >> >>>> the >> >>>> past week, and few others with different weights for each such >> >>>> attribute. We >> >>>> currently dont include 7d users as a signal (in the future we will), >> >>>> hence >> >>>> even though the 7d number was incorrect, the app directory ranking was >> >>>> accurate and did not change. Our goal is to make the ranking dynamic and >> >>>> support new apps that are growing fast, in addition to showcasing the >> >>>> already popular apps. We will continue to evolve the ranking function >> >>>> and >> >>>> make UI improvements to the directory to better showcase all kinds of >> >>>> apps. >> >> >>>> 3. Ask Friends ratio of installs to actives: If you look at MindJolt >> >>>> games as you cited, the ratio of total installs (1M) to 7d actives (87k >> >>>> - >> >>>> corrected number) is typical. If you look at Ask Friends with 21M >> >>>> installs >> >>>> to 89k 7d actives - the ratio is not typical. There is a reason for >> >>>> this. >> >>>> Ask Friends was the first orkut feature (launched in some locales) that >> >>>> we >> >>>> have now converted to an OpenSocial app. Since it was already a feature >> >>>> enabled for a large number of users, it shows an install base of 21M. >> >>>> The >> >>>> 89k is the true representation of the number of active users for the >> >>>> app. >> >>>> There have been uninstalls on the app which will decrease the 21M user >> >>>> number over time. >> >> >>>> 4. How to grow apps on orkut: Activity streams are by far the most >> >>>> effective way of getting more users for your app. So do design your >> >>>> activity >> >>>> update really carefully and needless to say, make it social. You can use >> >>>> sendmessage to send invites for your app to your friends. You could >> >>>> also do >> >>>> ads (paid) on orkut that link to your app. The directory is also >> >>>> important, >> >>>> but I'd say activity streams are most effective. In order to have a lot >> >>>> of >> >>>> activities generated initially, its important to nurture an initial >> >>>> seed of >> >>>> users (your family group, your company team, etc). >> >> >>>> 5. We are working towards making apps a more integral part of the orkut >> >>>> experience, offering more APIs and providing the right tools to >> >>>> developers >> >>>> to help manage them. >> >> >>>> Hope this clarifies some of the numbers you are looking at in the past >> >>>> week. We are sorry for the inconvenience and look forward to great apps >> >>>> from >> >>>> you. If you have questions, feedback or feature suggestions, please do >> >>>> continue to share them on this group or directly at >> >>>> opensocial.ra...@google.com. >> >> >>>> Thanks >> >>>> Rahul >> >> >>>> On Tue, Sep 1, 2009 at 4:45 PM, Amitabh Sharma < >> >>>> sharma.amit...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >> >>>>> Hey all, >> >>>>> I have been developing an application for orkut , >> >>>>> i have looked at other networks too and i know each and everyone of >> >>>>> them >> >>>>> have a niche of users with their own set of preferences, but orkut >> >>>>> users and >> >>>>> their preferences are totally out of my understanding. >> >> >>>>> Since orkut does not allow multiple invitations, and from what i >> >>>>> understand the number of news feeds per user per day for an >> >>>>> application is >> >>>>> also limited (of course for better user experience), but as a >> >>>>> developer how >> >>>>> do you approach this ? I mean the stats in the application directory >> >>>>> have >> >>>>> absolutely baffled me, there are apps with hundreds of thousands of >> >>>>> install >> >>>>> and mere hundreds of weekly active users ? >> >> >>>>> For example the current listing in app directory as of 1st September >> >>>>> 11:03 AM GMT, >> >> >>>>> 1) Ask Friends : Installs - 21633162 >> >>>>> usage/wk - 7643 users >> >> >>>>> 2) MindJolt Games : Installs 1057557 >> >>>>> usage/wk - 771 users >> >> >>>>> and so on.. >> >> >>>>> I mean i cannot understand why the apps with hundreds of hours of >> >>>>> development and refinement seem to unable to retain users ? >> >>>>> Is something missing from the developer's who are unable to understand >> >>>>> the requirements and fill those loop holes or is just the strictness of >> >>>>> orkut as platform to allow more viral behavior of applications ? >> >> >>>>> I once heard a successful app developer on facebook say once that for >> >>>>> every one app user you should get at least get 1.2 more users by >> >>>>> invitation >> >>>>> or viral feed. They got notifications too, so every time new levels are >> >>>>> added to game the user gets notification saying "Hey we got new stuff! >> >>>>> check >> >>>>> it out !" >> >> >>>>> I am totally confused on how to make applications viral on network as >> >>>>> populous as orkut and yet it's user base remains most unreachable for >> >>>>> most >> >>>>> developers. >> >> >>>>> I would really appreciate if other developers can share their >> >>>>> experience of developing and running apps. And may be any tips on >> >>>>> understanding users better and reaching them. >> >> >>>>> Thanks >> >>>>> - Amit >> >> >>>> -- >> >>>> Rahul S. Kulkarni >> >>>> Product Manager | Google Inc >> >> >>> -- >> >>> Daniel Calife >> >>>www.colorcubegames.net >> >> >> -- >> >> Rahul S. Kulkarni >> >> Product Manager | Google Inc >> >> > -- >> > Daniel Calife >> >www.colorcubegames.net >> >> -- >> Rahul S. 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