cool, thanks On Sep 2, 11:56 am, "Prashant Tiwari (Google)" <p...@google.com> wrote: > Hello everyone, > > Thanks much for your feedback! One of our ideas behind publishing > these details was to invite inputs just like these that we could feed > back into to the system to improve our processes. > > I'm going to study the details in Anatoly's first mail to verify those > things for myself. But they are not necessarily because we mis- > evaluate the ranking, but because of certain other troubles we've been > facing with the directory listings itself. Some of these are beyond > our present control, but we've already been working on isolating some > of those problems, and you should see better results soon. > > We liked the idea of also taking into account the time spent on each > app by users. That, adjusted for the latency in renderings, would > certainly be a good metric too, and we'll work on these lines soon. > > ~Prashant > > On Sep 1, 3:58 pm, anatoly <anato...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > also: > > You should count the time spent on the app. > > It is possible 2 apps have the same ranking specified in the blog > > post, but users spend 10 seconds vs. 30 minutes or more per day on the > > other. > > > On Aug 29, 1:55 pm, anatoly <anato...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > 1) Suppose the app has many pages, you can either load each page in > > > ajax or reloading with parameters. > > > ajax is preferred from the user perspective but is not counted as > > > rendering, which could be easily faked also to boost the score. > > > > 2) Because of recent changes I doubt there is any value for profile > > > rendering anymore. > > > > 3) Also: I didn't see any weight for activities published. Why not? > > > Orkut should count unique activities published (per user per activity > > > content) and add to the total score accordingly. > > > > On Aug 27, 1:44 am, Alex Porto <alex.itaj...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > I thought that, by "rendering", they were counting how many times some > > > > user > > > > watches the app in profile or canvas. But, anyway, it would be good to > > > > know > > > > how this is done exaclty. It would be frustrating if some developers > > > > were > > > > allowed to use things like that to circumvent the algoritm and push > > > > their > > > > apps up in the listings. > > > > > Alex > > > > > On Thu, Aug 26, 2010 at 1:54 PM, anatoly <anato...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > this algo completely doesn't make sense. > > > > > > example: > > > > > check out where Vila Mágica is placed in the directory > > > > > > with 1253099 weekly users > > > > > 4764702 total > > > > > > apps with 80K and 90K totals and less than 10K weekly are just above > > > > > it. > > > > > > my most popular app is #3 among all my apps with #2 and #3 are above > > > > > it by far. > > > > > > there are regular big jumps in the directory up and down while there > > > > > is not much change in traffic/installs/uninstalls. > > > > > > etc. > > > > > > Besides directory is one of the weakest sides of orkut platform. > > > > > > BTW, what do you mean by app "rendering"? > > > > > If my app heavily uses ajax and doesn't reload evry time - does this > > > > > mean I'm losing in rankings? > > > > > I thought that it is natural for apps in opensocial to use ajax a lot. > > > > > > On Aug 26, 7:38 pm, "Prashant Tiwari (Google)" <p...@google.com> > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > If this subject has ever puzzled you, we think our latest blog > > > > > > might be > > > > > > of some interest to you: > > > > >http://googlecode.blogspot.com/2010/08/demystifying-app-ranking-crite.... > > > > > > > ~Prashant > > > > > > -- > > > > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google > > > > > Groups > > > > > "orkut Developer Forum" group. > > > > > To post to this group, send email to > > > > > opensocial-or...@googlegroups.com. > > > > > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > > > > > opensocial-orkut+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com<opensocial-orkut%2Bunsubscrib > > > > > ...@googlegroups.com> > > > > > . > > > > > For more options, visit this group at > > > > >http://groups.google.com/group/opensocial-orkut?hl=en.-Hidequotedtext - > > > > > - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - > > > > - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - > > - Show quoted text -
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