Within 24 hours, if there's no objections, I'll close this case as approved.
--Irene On Thu, 2008-07-31 at 14:02 +0800, Irene Huang wrote: > Hi, all > > The updated proposal is posted at > Internally > http://sac.eng/Archives/CaseLog/arc/LSARC/2008/464/proposal-v2.txt > Diff file > http://sac.eng/Archives/CaseLog/arc/LSARC/2008/464/proposal.diff > > Externally > ???http://www.opensolaris.org/os/community/arc/caselog/2008/464 > > I am reseting the time out to be August 4th. > > Thanks > --Irene > On Wed, 2008-07-30 at 17:27 +0800, Jim Li wrote: > > I've updated the one page and summarized the question and answers. > > > > Q1. There are some similar functionality projects. > > > > I'v listed the known project with similar function in the ARC material. > > > > Q2. Mime type file extension conflicts. > > > > There is a potential Mime Type conflicts when integrating projects with > > overlap functionality. Although Planner (LSARC/2008/454) and Openproj > > are both project management tools, but they have their own file format > > and different file extensions, *.planner and *mrprojects for Planner, > > *.pod for Openproj. There are no Mime type conflicts for Planner > > and Openproj. > > I'll keep my eyes on this kind of stuff in future. > > > > Thanks > > Jim > > > > > > > Usually the "default app" is a user preference. As long as there is no > > > conflict between the apps I think its ok to have as many as people > > > want. I think the important part is making sure the default is easily > > > changeable. I hate to use it as an example but Windows has the default > > > programs control panel and also has some right menu selections that > > > let you "Open file with..." type functionality so you can override the > > > default when required. I'm pretty sure that functionality is already > > > in gnome but it would be nice to have that confirmed as we add > > > different packages with overlapping functionality. > > > > > > Which one we decide to make default is an other question. I'd vote > > > "None of the above" and make the user pick except in the most obvious > > > cases. > > > > > > Edward Hunter wrote: > > >> It seems like there is a business issue and an architectural issue > > >> combined here. The business issue is which consumer of the mime type > > >> (or media format) does Sun pick as the winner. That would be the > > >> default out of the box. We could of course choose not to pick one > > >> and that is a decision too. :-) > > >> > > >> The architectural question seems to be "if you pick a winner, does > > >> that have a bad effect on the losers". In other words does picking A > > >> prevent B and C from functioning. It sounds like in this case the > > >> business case is to not pick a winner since we're integrating both > > >> bits of software. What is not clear to me is the side effects when > > >> the end user chooses between the two (or three) choices. In > > >> particular if different users on the same system choose different > > >> defaults is that a problem? Sounds like no but I am not sure. > > >> -edh > > >> > > >> > > >> Torrey McMahon wrote: > > >>> Jim Li wrote: > > >>>> Torrey: > > >>>>>>> Not to start a flame-fest here but haven't we seen a lot of > > >>>>>>> other projects come across lately that integrate functionality > > >>>>>>> that matches an other project? Why would this be different? > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> I don't think it is a problem to have duplicate functionality, > > >>>>>> personally. I would just like to hear that the project teams > > >>>>>> delivering > > >>>>>> related projects are talking together and formulating their plans > > >>>>>> with > > >>>>>> each other in mind, cooperating with work on any common > > >>>>>> dependencies, > > >>>>>> etc. At least aware of each other. > > >>>>> > > >>>>> All of engineering gets the ARC case submittal forms, right? ;) > > >>>>> > > >>>>> Seriously - I agree with you. One thing I'm sure we'll see is > > >>>>> fighting mime types of file extensions in a lot of cases. > > >>>> Mime types of file extensions issue exists in all kind of systems, > > >>>> so IMHO this is not a ARC issue. > > >>> > > >>> I'm not sure its *not* an ARC issue but I'm not raising it for this > > >>> case. My point is that as we - And this is a generalization - add > > >>> every single piece of FOSS software we can get our hands on to > > >>> [Open]Solaris we're going to see more conflicts then we did in the > > >>> past. The past being known for a lot less duplication and an > > >>> unwillingness to have more then one tool do the same job. > > >>> > > >>> Media players are the easy example. How many have we integrated now? > > >>> How is a user going to select the one they want and make it the > > >>> default? Again, not a question for this case or this project team, > > >>> but something we should figure out in the near term....if someone > > >>> hasn't already. > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > > > > > >
