On Wed, 2005-12-21 at 20:25, Ian Collins wrote: > Stefan Teleman wrote: > > >On 12/21/05, Ian Collins <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > >>Why the hostility, when I only asked a polite question? > >> > >> > > > >I find this incessant Blastwave promotion patently unfair. > > > >How come none of the Blastwave promoters ever mentions the work done > >by Steve Christensen with Sunfreeware, or the work done by The Written > >Word ? And i am quite certain they are others i forget right now. > > > > > > > While I have never used The Written Word, I have used and promoted > Sunfreeware over the years. I just use what's best for me, which at the > moment requires some form of automatic update. > > >There was a time, not so long ago, when Sunfreeware was the *only* > >where GNU/OpenSource software for Solaris was available for download. > >Sunfreeware *still* maintains and publishes packages for Solaris, on > >both X86 and SPARC. So does The Written Word. > > > > > I have no problem with that. If the shoe fits, use it. > > >The reason i am involved with KDE and OpenSolaris is because i believe > >that individuals are entitled to certain freedom rights insofar as > >software is concerned, and because i believe that freedom, openness, > >honesty and fair play foster creativity and innovation. Openness, > >honesty and fair play carry a responsibility on the part of those > >involved in free software: one must be willing to take a back seat in > >this show, because the show is not about particular distributions, or > >individuals, but about freedom, innovation and creativity. > > > > > > > Don't forget how Blastwave started, it grew as a community effort and it > still is. One look at the list of maintainers shows this. > > Maybe what we require from all the distributions is a common means of > identifying versions, so a package installer can search for <package > X><version Y> on the system, regardless of its origin. > > This would be a start in cleaning what appears to an outsider to be the > messy situation of conflicting version of the same application.
Not just an outider Ian. It is a mess. One of the biggest problems I have with blastwave is that if, for example, I want to install blastwave's openldap package, I'm forced to install the unixodbc package as well and their version of OpenSSL. Why? I don't need unixodbc for an LDAP server and Sun provides an OpenSSL version as part of the OS, but the Openldap package as provided by Blastwave requires unixodbc and their version of OpenSSL. And why is freetype required? Does it offer something extra? Why does an LDAP server require a font engine? Bloat, it's a problem that blastwave appears to encourage or at least tolerate. Disk space may be cheap, but the time that's required to juggle all this isn't. John > Then > you wouldn't have to spend your time keeping the KDE dependencies up to > date. Freedom can also be freedom for the drudgery of maintaining thins > you require, rather than those you want to build and grow. I know, I've > been there. > > I'd love to use your version of KDE, you do a superb job with KDE on > Solaris. But as I have to pay for bandwidth, I don't want yet another > set of packages to administer on my system. > > Ian > _______________________________________________ > opensolaris-discuss mailing list > opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org _______________________________________________ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
