Hiya,

On Thu, 2006-04-13 at 15:24 -0700, Philip Brown wrote:
> This issue came up waaaay back 5 years(?) ago when I started things off. 
> We initially tried to build on top of Sun shipped stuff, which at that time,
> was all living in /opt/sfw.  It didnt work.

I just wonder if those are a reflection of other problems 

   o Communication between SFW teams within Sun and external people
   o Incompatability of release cycles and schedules
   o Different set of users targets

> But this eventually dwindled to such a small percentage, there was no
> longer any real gain to depending on the SFW versions any more. So I made
> the decision to "simplify the user experience" ;-)

Completely understandable. I just wonder if it's time to bridge that gap
again - and absolutely awesome that you're contributing to the
discussion, btw ;)

> Given that we have to do the full gnome dependancy build on sol8 anyway...
> it would make life far too complicated to ship two very differently linked
> versions of gnome; one for sol8, and one for sol10.
> 
> The single version approach is actually beneficial to the USERS, as well as
> the blastwave maintainers!!
> This way means that our users can NFS-export out a single /opt/csw,
> to ALL their solaris 8, 9, and 10 machines, and have gnome work
> *exactly the same way* on all of them.

Within the JDS team, we're trying to constantly track the GNOME 6 month
release cycle and provide packages for the latest and greatest. Doing
that on Solaris 8, 9, 10 and Nevada isn't very realistic. As GNOME moves
more towards the OS level with things like HAL, it'll prove harder and
harder to have it working exactly the same way without porting some core
infrastructure back to older releases. While I can appreciate many, many
people running Solaris 8 and 9, it seems like a complete waste of
development time. I'm a fan of 'release early, release often' stategy
FWIW - I'd much rather spend my time filling the software swamps and
evolve rather than constantly backport.

Maybe you can explain how Blastwave works, and what release cycle you
guys have? There's very obvious overlaps with what you're currently
doing, and the utopic vision that a lot of people have.


Glynn

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