On 10/18/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>On 10/18/06, Josh Hurst <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> On 10/18/06, James Carlson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> > Josh Hurst writes: >> > > On 10/17/06, maoyi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> > > > I want to post my 4over6 code.How? >> > > > >> > > > 4over6 is a project that makes ipv4 packets go through ipv6 network. >> > > I suggest that you wait until the ksh93 integration project is done >> > > with it's work. The project suffers from excessive bureaucracy >> > > overhead and in my opinion a discussion should be started to >> > > streamline the project integration process. The current process has >> > > become unbearable and this needs to be corrected before new projects >> > > are launched >> > >> > Your fear-mongering is completely misplaced just plain unacceptable. >> Please understand that I am trying to start a generalised discussion >> whether all this bureaucracy is REQUIRED. No other Open Source project >> requires this kind of excessive bureaucracy overhead. >> >> I do not feel very well that I have to kickstart this discussion but I >> think the excessive delays in the ksh93 integration project are no >> longer bearable and require at least a look at the general process. >> >> I'd like to start a constructive discussion about the problems because >> a reform is overdue >I've added the CAB discussion list to the CC: for comments. IMO the >problem should be discussed before any new projects are started. We >need a new, streamlined process which makes sure that projects are no >longer trashed with excessive bureaucracy This is assuming that there is a problem; three CAB members did take part in the development process discussions (Al, Rich and me) and I don't think we so fault in it. Of course, we're all Solaris/Sun fanboys and believe that the way in which we architect and develop is "The One True Way(TM)".
Is there any other Open Source project which has similar bureaucracy requirements? The integration of ksh93 is an item which the average Linux distribution does in days or weeks while OpenSolaris.org needs 8 months to present another list of bureaucracy items which still need to be finished. I think it is excessive to the point of mental injury that such a simple project gets delayed by a factor of 40. Applying the same bureaucracy to other projects will lead to the destruction of OpenSolaris.org. I predict that either the number of contributors will cease or a full fork of OpenSolaris.org (the whole organisation, not the Solaris kernel) may appear, drawing all attention and contributors to the new project -- Josh _______________________________________________ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org