Artem Kachitchkine <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>
> Most OS vendors are prepared to invest in basic media recording support. 
> Advanced applications is the space where 3rd parties like Roxio and Nero 
> compete. These companies let burner vendors to include dumbed down versions 
> of 
> their software in hopes that users will buy a full version. That's how things 
> are.

Things are even harder....

Richard Lesser, the chief of Nero (former ahead) did start a very agressive
advertizing campaign and did place a stack of his A4 ads everywhere on the 
Cebit. He did aproach the CD vendors for a OEM software version with a
lower prize than any other competitor.

As the price became more important for selling drives, he at some time did 
reach the point where every drive manufacturer did ship the drives with Nero.
Very lately, Nero did start to support DVDs.....

The problem with such a monoculture is that new drive manufacturers did not
give away any sample drives to me. See below for more information...

You should never compare to Nero, but Nero is a niche product that only works
on a very limited number of OS.



> We also need to distinguish two parts of a media recording solution: the 
> engine 
> and the user interface. Most well-designed applications, regardless of the 
> OS, 
> have the engine separated and "abstracted out". That includes Nero (it is 
> perfectly usable from command line in Windows). The engine defines core 
> features, such as supported media types, drive types, write modes, etc. The 
> user 
> interface provides easy access to the core features, but also provides 
> supplemental features such as file management.

I am not sure whether you missinterpret Nero.

In Y2000, Nero was a piece of code that did not exist as a command line utility 
at all. I would guess tha the current versions of Nero still use this kind of
aproach on Win32.

The Nero command line tool was obviously written after looking at cdrecord
and because there are some kind of customers that like to run automated tools.



> Then there's the third, the fun and creative part: authoring, making home 
> movies 
> on DVD, making mix tapes^H^H^H^H^H CDs, designing labels, etc. That, IMO, is 
> the 
> only thing that should differentiate 3rd party solutions and is worth paying 
> money for. It's a real shame that evolution of optical media has been such a 
> mess that simply putting bits on a disc requires a know-how.

cdrtools is a set of layered tools.

cdrecord writes the data asuming the data makes sense. It is possible to tell
cdrecord about the location of the layer break for a dual layer DVD Video.

mkisofs creates a ISO-9660 or UDF filesystem image asuming that the master tree
does make sense. If this is a DVD-Video stream, then mkisofs reads the IFO file
and inserts pad sectors acording to the IFO file to allow DVD players to
deal with the data.

If you like cdrtools to be used for mastering DVD-Video, you need an application
that creates the IFO and other related files.


> With respect to OpenSolaris, cdrtools/cdrecord is the engine we prefer to 
> invest 
> in. Missing features (Blu-Ray, HD-DVD, LightScribe, Thingmabob...) should be 
> added to cdrtools, hopefully with the help from the community. The basic GUI 
> we 

HD-DVD drives are not yet available.
If I get a Blu-Ray drive, cdrecord will support Blu-Ray soon.

Lightscribe is a poblem, the initiators do not send me the needed information.


Jörg

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