Joerg Schilling wrote: > I still cannot understand why a Sun controlled login (via PAM) depends on > Mozilla's /usr/lib/mps/libssl3.so but /usr/sbin/pkgadd depends on > /usr/sfw/lib/libssl.so.0.9.8 > > This is the problem I'm more concerned about than including the 'Linux Suite' of software.
I'm more concerned about Solaris *depending* on this mulittude of libraries and binaries strewn all across the filesystem and more importantly the packages. I'm still of the belief that having the 'linux suite' is nice to have for people looking for it, I don't have a problem with installing it by default even, but it should be optional, and easily removed.I think we should all think hard and set some hard and fast rules for what and how other parts of solaris can depend on them. I'm happy to see new things in Solaris, and the work on the packing system software is welcome. I just think that the way pieces of solaris are allowed to depend on other things, and the way the files are divided into packages is a much bigger problem than the technology available to install and remove, and manage these packages. For instance, I understand that in the linux world 'DBUS' and 'HAL' have come from the same (or closely connected) community that GNOME comes from. So I don't see a problem with the GNOME team at sun being responsible for integrating them into Solaris. But when the program that manages automatically mounting removable media was integrated and required these API's, libraries, and daemons, I think it should have been obvious to move them to some other more 'system level' package and not allowed to stay in large GNOME packages that have a multitude of other package dpenedencies. Right now you can't install a headless machine without GNOME that will still mount a CD when it's inserted. Another example, is Xscreensaver. I always used to be able install that with only X11 installed. Now not only does GNOME have to be installed too, So does large portions of Evolution!! What on earth does Evolution have to do with a ScreenSaver? So, If attention is paid to dependencies, and the likely use-cases when the files are divided among packages, I don't have much problem with this additional software. But today it's already too much like linux for me. The situtation described above about upgrading one piece, and being forced to upgrade half the machine is for me here already. I can't remove a large number of pacakgeswithout removing ones I want. I can't add ones I want without adding a huge number of pacakge I don't want. And I don't accept the argument that 'Disk is cheap - Install it all!' -Kyle The > Jörg > > _______________________________________________ opensolaris-discuss mailing list [email protected]
