On Feb 6, 2008 11:41 AM, Kyle McDonald <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Shawn Walker wrote: > > On Feb 6, 2008 10:31 AM, Kyle McDonald <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > >> Shawn Walker wrote: > >> > >>> Yes, I am trying to say that packaging is the issue here, not software. > >>> > >>> > >>> > >> No. Dependencies are the issue. Many dependencies are created when the > >> > > > > Dependencies are a result of packaging in most cases, so I don't see > > how what you are saying is much different than what I am saying. > > > > I'm fairly certain we're effectively saying the same thing. > > > > > No you're missing the distinction (it may be fine, but it's important.)
<snip> No, I'm actually not. Development decisions had no relevance (in my mind) to the original perceived issue in question. DBUS and HAL are reasonable dependencies to have, and I don't see any practical alternatives unless you want to have to maintain multiple methods of doing the same thing. I didn't miss your distinction; I was merely dismissing it as unrelated. > >> Also I think most dependency problems that can be fixed by re-packaging, > >> can be fixed today with the current pacakging tools. It just takes a > >> finer resolution of packges, and likely an explosion in the number of > >> packages. The problems in the packaging, and the problems being solved > >> in the packaging tools I think, are largely ( though maybe not entirely) > >> orthogonal, and unrelated. > >> > > > > Didn't I just say the problem is the packaging? > > > > > I was trying to add that I believe fixing packaging boundaries, and > dependencies is a higher priority than new packaging technology. Enough > so that a coordinated examination and effort (Is there one already?) > across all of solaris would be a good idea, rather than leaving it to > the different projects to realize the limits of their current pacakges, > and fix them at their own pace. In the original case being discussed, I still think it is packaging (which I think boundaries falls within) that was the issue and not development choices. -- Shawn Walker, Software and Systems Analyst http://binarycrusader.blogspot.com/ "To err is human -- and to blame it on a computer is even more so." - Robert Orben _______________________________________________ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org