On Thu, 20 Mar 2008 11:07:31 -0700 Glenn Lagasse <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> * Ken Gunderson ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > > On Wed, 19 Mar 2008 14:00:32 -0700 > > Glenn Lagasse <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > Hey Ken, > > > > > > * Ken Gunderson ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > > > > On Wed, 19 Mar 2008 11:15:33 -0600 > > > > Jim Walker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > Thanks Brian, > > > > > > > > > > Was there a flag day for this? If not, I would think about > > > > > making one. Finding the bugs is a good thing, but impacting > > > > > users that don't have time to be beta testers at the moment > > > > > isn't. > > > > > > > > +1. Makes OS utterly unusable for me in any Sun packaged form, > > > > including SXDE, wh/I was told was supposedly more "well tested" version > > > > that would be more stable/suitable for workstation use. > > > > > > So, just to clarify some things. > > > > > > 1) this is not a problem in SXDE (I believe, since the last SXDE was > > > from january). This is seen in the SXCE releases starting with 84 (I > > > believe). > > > > > > 2) SXCE is an 'under development' release (which SXDE is based off of > > > once we stabilize it). There are going to be bumps along the way. That > > > said, lots of developers inside Sun (certainly in the Solaris org) run > > > these builds to get real work done (which is how we find some of these > > > more interesting problems). > > > > To clarify - I'm seeing Gnome crashes, Evolution in particular, on both > > latest SXDE and SXCE, builds 79 and 84, respectively. And on previous > > SXDE as well. Some might say "just use Thunderbird" but then I might as > > well use winblows.... For what it's worth, hardware in this instance is > > Tyan K8E and Opteron 180, wh/I believe is essentially same board Sun > > based for their X2100 on. > > Ok, but that's different from what's being talked about in this thread. > FWIW, I use Gnome in Indiana DP2 every day (and have been since DP2 > released) and haven't had a Gnome crash yet. This thread has discussed a few different things - I must be confused but I thought current context was Gnome dumping core, at least in some cases due to ASSERT being enabled for debugging purposes. I'm just reporting that I have Gnome dumping core on _both_ 79 and 84 builds, particularly when running Evolution, frequently enough so as to make either of them unusable for daily operations. I further reported that this is occurring on amd64 bit hardware because in my experience w/other OS's bugs pop up in 64 bit mode that seem to slip past 32 bit mode. > > What would be really appreciated is if Sun/OS would invest some > > energies in porting Xfce - lightweight, fast, and sports a nice window > > manager that actually does useful things like shade on mouse title bar > > scroll, right click anywhere for full menu, page desktops on mouse > > scroll, etc. It's gtk based and attracts a lot of "Gnome refugees" to > > it's ranks, so should not be too hard to port, eh? > > Feel free to step right up and take that on :-) Would love to but I am not a developer and too old to change horses at this stage in life. Hence my first sentence in the paragraph above. If you've not ever looked at Xfce, or looked at it lately, perhaps you might want to take a gander. I have several unix grey beard type buddies who've ditched Gnome for Xfce after taking it for a test drive and in recent years Xfce is attracting an increasingly large cadre of "Gnome Refugees". There must be a reason. -- Best regards, Ken Gunderson Q: Because it reverses the logical flow of conversation. A: Why is putting a reply at the top of the message frowned upon? _______________________________________________ opensolaris-discuss mailing list opensolaris-discuss@opensolaris.org
