> The comment about GNU is IMO unjustified. The ksh93-integration and
> AT&T team have done a much better technical job than GNU in the last
> four years. We got ksh93, a lot of modernized tools, even more in the
> work, with GNU *and* BSD extensions, stick to POSIX and a stable API
> and they are evolving with the rest of the open source world.

That all sounds good, but I have long used GNU extensions on Solaris, "gtar" as 
a case in point so that I could get compression support with tar. 
gupdatedb/glocate are another example. There are many Sun/Solaris folks that 
will be quick to tell you how crappy the GNU extensions are, but there are more 
than a few like me that would just like to have some of the features they 
offer. The bigger problem is in having both code bases. In Nexenta's case they 
don't maintain much of that, they use the GNU base and Debian folks maintain 
that for them.

However, not to digress, my point was more in relation to leveraging open 
source to solve the same problems they were designed for. To be able to work 
with the other open source communities so that all can grow as a whole.

This is the "Not Invented Here" syndrome.

I used Nexenta as an example only because they were able to put together a 
distribution that did leverage the GNU base. But they not only had a 
distribution together but had ZFS included on the root file system long before 
(Open)Solaris.

More so I believe that John Plocher's point was spot on, because I was always 
100% supportive of the fact that the <cough> (Open)Solaris community should be 
built out of 100% open code, so the community doesn't have to rely on Oracle, 
and more importantly so that they CAN build it. Without the closed bins I don't 
think the kernel will build anymore. There is a LOT of code in closed, and all 
the HBA controllers have support by means of closed bins as I recall...WTF, we 
can't even use the <cough> (Open)Solaris name.

> Just looking at Debian, Ubuntu and Linux only doesn't make Opensolaris
> better, it gives only a shadow or at best a petty clone but not a top
> grade enterprise system.

I think Linux is good enough for the enterprise. If I have to sacrifice the 
ability to build the system from open sources, enterprise doesn't mean $#!T at 
the end of the day. Live free or die...

Regards,
Alan
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