Ok, now that make sense :) i think, the secret to know how they think.. is to look through the optics of profit and market.. thats very different from sun, wich posess a hibrid view, between technology and market.. sort like google do..
On Tue, Sep 7, 2010 at 11:45 AM, Octave Orgeron <[email protected]>wrote: > If you guys pay attention to what Larry has stated, Solaris is the number 1 > platform used by their customers, Linux is number 2. So that means a good > chunk > of that 370,000 customer base is already on Solaris. So it's really an easy > win > for Oracle to push more Solaris on that customer base. > > > And for those who believe that SPARC is doing really bad, keep this in > mind.. > Sun Oracle sold over 1.5 times more Solaris SPARC servers than IBM Power > and > over 2 times more than HP Itanium. That was for the last quarter, which was > bad > for the overall server market, but still shows greater demand for Solaris > SPARC > than for Power or Itanium based servers. It has been this way for years > with > Solaris SPARC unit sales out pacing IBM Power and HP Itanium. The problem > Sun > had was making the kind of money IBM and HP made, which is no surprise when > most > IBM sales for comparable hardware costs 2-3 times more than the Sun > solution. > Perhaps if Sun had charged an arm and leg for each server and feature, they > would still be around today as an independent company. Again, Sun Oracle is > in > the top 5 server makers by volume and profit globally. So there is plenty > of > demand;) > > I totally agree that Oracle will make Solaris 11 the most attractive > platform > for their products. They are already making Dtrace probes for all of their > apps, > which if you think about it means it'll be the best platform for support > and > performance, regardless if it's on SPARC or x86. Oracle has a powerful > sales > team and they'll push the Solaris on Sun Oracle hardware as the base. > > > *-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-* > Octave J. Orgeron > Solaris Virtualization Architect and Consultant > Web: http://unixconsole.blogspot.com > E-Mail: [email protected] > > *-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-* > > > > ----- Original Message ---- > From: Orvar Korvar <[email protected]> > To: [email protected] > Sent: Tue, September 7, 2010 3:47:39 AM > Subject: Re: [osol-discuss] OpenSolaris cancelled, to be replaced with > Solaris > 11 Express > > It doesnt matter how much Unix has lost ground. I agree that Unix lost > ground, > everyone knows that. The question is not about the past. Let us instead try > to > look into the future instead. > > Oracle has 370.000 customers and they pay big money. Sun had 35.000 > customers. > Oracle will make sure that their database plays best together with Solaris > 11. > And Exadata is switching to Solaris too. Larry will make sure there are not > only > technological reasons to switch to Solaris, but also business reasons. > > The customers that want to utilize Oracle Database to the full extent, must > use > Solaris 11. What will those customers do? Switch or stay on Linux? You can > not > easily migrate from one database to another. In short, the future (not the > past) > looks bright. Solaris adoption rate among Oracle's current customers are > low, > and there is a huge growth potential there. If Oracle can make even a tiny > percent to switch, then Oracle has reverted the trend and Solaris is > actually > increasing market share. > > Solaris itself can not revert the declining trend, but Oracle will use > Solaris > to drive their applications better than any other OS. And people use and > care > about applications. > > In short, Solaris has greater potential to grow than ever before (370.000 > new > customers). Or in other words, the future is bright for Solaris. > -- > This message posted from opensolaris.org > _______________________________________________ > opensolaris-discuss mailing list > [email protected] > > > > > _______________________________________________ > opensolaris-discuss mailing list > [email protected] >
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