Doug Wiegley :
As an alternative, to be considered to cleaned up, note that octavia, also a neutron stadium project, puts its specs in its own repo, runs its own doc jobs, etc. Pros and cons, but just pointing out that its out there.

Same for networking-bgpvpn: while the base discussion on the API introduced by this project initially happened in neutron-specs [1], we now host it in our repo [2] (doc dir, doc jobs and new specs to be reviewed will be in this repo as well).

This is works for us today.

-Thomas

[1] https://review.openstack.org/#/c/177740/
[2] http://docs.openstack.org/developer/networking-bgpvpn/



On Oct 22, 2015, at 2:47 AM, Kyle Mestery <mest...@mestery.com <mailto:mest...@mestery.com>> wrote:

On Wed, Oct 21, 2015 at 12:34 PM, Armando M.<arma...@gmail.com <mailto:arma...@gmail.com>>wrote:



    On 21 October 2015 at 10:29, Kyle Mestery<mest...@mestery.com
    <mailto:mest...@mestery.com>>wrote:

        On Wed, Oct 21, 2015 at 12:08 PM, Armando
        M.<arma...@gmail.com <mailto:arma...@gmail.com>>wrote:



            On 21 October 2015 at 09:53, Kyle
            Mestery<mest...@mestery.com
            <mailto:mest...@mestery.com>>wrote:

                On Wed, Oct 21, 2015 at 11:37 AM, Armando
                M.<arma...@gmail.com <mailto:arma...@gmail.com>>wrote:



                    On 21 October 2015 at 04:12, Gal
                    Sagie<gal.sa...@gmail.com
                    <mailto:gal.sa...@gmail.com>>wrote:

                        Do we also want to consider Project Kuryr
                        part of this?


                    No, why would we?

                The reason to consider it is because Kuryr is a
                sub-project of Neutron, and they are doing their spec
                submissions following the Neutron guidelines. Adding
                the kuryr-core gerrit group to be on part with the
                *aas repos makes sense here. If other sub-projects
                (like L2FW, SFC, etc.) start doing spec reviews in
                the neutron-specs repository, then adding them makes
                sense too.


            I don't believe this is the road we set ourselves on when
            we started the decomp/stadium. We wanted a clear
            separation of concerns and I don't see how going down
            this path is going to help us achieve that.

            I don't see the grounds to have such an abrupt change in
            direction right now, especially for the level of work
            that that would imply and the pressure that would put on
            the drivers team. Anyone is free to review and contribute
            where it matters for them, and location should not
            prevent them from doing so.

        I was merely implying that since these projects are part of
        neutron, and they have specs, keeping them in one place makes
        sense. And by doing that, we'd need to give them +2 powers
        for their core reviewers. But, I'm fine with leaving things
        the way they are and having them put their specs in their
        devref. But we should update the devref in Neutron to reflect
        this, e.g. that we don't expect specs in neutron-specs for
        things outside [neutron, neutron-fwaas, neutron-lbaas,
        neutron-vpnaas].


    IMO, it's pretty clear from here [1], which I revised in the
    context of [2]. Not sure if there's anything else that's left to
    misunderstanding.


I think this [1] helps to make it 100% clearer, at least to me.

[1]https://review.openstack.org/238190

    
[1]http://docs.openstack.org/developer/neutron/policies/neutron-teams.html#neutron-specs-core-reviewer-team
    [2] https://review.openstack.org/#/c/237180/

                        We already started sending Kuryr spec to the
                        Neutron repository and I think it would make
                        sense to manage it
                        as part of Neutron spec process.


                    No, unless what you are asking are changes to the
                    core. Do you have a reference for me to look at?

                See above, perhaps I answered this for you.



                        Any opinions on that?

                        Gal.

                        On Tue, Oct 20, 2015 at 11:10 PM, Armando
                        M.<arma...@gmail.com
                        <mailto:arma...@gmail.com>>wrote:

                            Hi folks,

                            During revision of the Neutron teams [1],
                            we made clear that the neutron-specs repo
                            is to be targeted by specs for all the
                            Neutron projects (core + *-aas).

                            For this reason I made sure that the
                            neutron-specs-core team +2 right was
                            extended to all the core teams.

                            Be mindful, use your +2 rights with care:
                            if you are core on a *-aas project, you
                            should exercise that vote only for specs
                            that pertain the project you're core of.

                            If I could use this email as a reminder
                            also of the core hierarchy and lieutenant
                            system we switched to in Liberty ([3]):
                            if you have been made core by a
                            lieutenant of a sub-system, please use
                            your +2/+A only within your area of
                            comfort and reach out for help if in doubt.

                            Reviews are always welcome though!

                            Cheers,
                            Armando

                            [1] https://review.openstack.org/#/c/237180/
                            [2]
                            
https://review.openstack.org/#/admin/groups/314,members
                            [3]
                            
http://docs.openstack.org/developer/neutron/policies/neutron-teams.html#core-review-hierarchy

                            
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