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Randall R Schulz wrote:
> On Wednesday 30 May 2007 13:41, Pascal Bleser wrote:
>> Alexey Eremenko wrote:
>>> Adding /sbin/ to user's $PATH doesn't lower your security. (because
>>> you're still bound by Linux-user security privileges)
>>>
>>> But it will make our systems easier to use. So I vote for making it
>>> the default.
>> And it breaks 30 years of conventions on Unix systems and would be
>> the only Linux distribution doing that by default.
> 
> I don't know about you, but I was using Unix (the only and only Unix) 30 
> years ago, and this issue simply did not exist. There was /bin 
> and /usr/bin and everybody had both in their path, of course.
> 
> So it's a little disingenuous to make this claim.

OK, you want to be pedantic, then replace "30 years of Unix" with "10
years of Linux".

> Furthermore, we should not let history or tradition stand in the way of 
> improvement. If not having administrative directories in the default 
> path is an impediment for users, then they should be added.

Users too stupid to prepend /sbin or add /sbin:/usr/sbin at the end of
PATH shouldn't even touch the binaries located there in my opinion.

> I'm agnostic on the actual topic, though, since I never run with a stock 
> PATH or pretty much stock anything...
> 
>> So that's definitely a no.
>>
>> Do it on your box if you like to or even add a switch in YaST2 to
>> enable it, but don't make it the default setting.
> 
> I really fail to see a down-side, with the possible exception of the 
> fact that there are sometimes multiple commands with the same name. 
> Whois springs to mind. I'm not sure what the one in /sbin does, but it 
> doesn't appear to be at all the same thing that the one in /usr/bin/ 
> does (which is to look up whois directory information).

/usr/sbin:/sbin has to be added at the end of PATH

Anyhow, being the only Linux distribution that would do it is a
sufficient reason _not_ to do it.
I find it surprising people fail to see that.

If it's too difficult to do
echo 'PATH=$PATH:/usr/sbin:/sbin' >> /etc/profile.local
then let's ask for adding a setting in YaST2 to do it (through
/etc/sysconfig/suseconfig which already has settings for having . in
root's PATH and such) but not a default option IMO.

cheers
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