> are there any statistics to say who uses which?
I've heard of something called popularity-contest that collects
package usage data for Debian-based systems.

http://popcon.debian.org/
http://popcon.ubuntu.com/

As far as I know, there's no openSUSE equivalent to this yet.

Pieter

2011/2/18 Stuart Tanner <stu...@bolin.org.uk>
>
> Pieter
>
> Thanks very much for this it looks much better :) I really does demonstrate
> every aspect of how to choose how to want your openSUSE to look and feel :) I
> do wonder how within the openSUSE community the desktops stack up :) are there
> any statistics to say who uses which?
>
> Stuart
>
> On Friday 18 Feb 2011 18:37:59 Ricardo Chung wrote:
> > On Friday, February 18, 2011 01:21:26 PM Pieter De Decker wrote:
> > > Wow... I always thought that the vast majority of the Linux community
> > > used GNOME or KDE, but clearly LXDE can't be neglected ;-)
> > >
> > > Here's a low-res preview of the updated poster:
> > > http://en.opensuse.org/File:DeskEnvPoster.png
> > >
> > > I'll repackage posters.zip and slides.zip asap. (If the modification
> > > timestamp on top of the download page still reads "Updated Feb 15", I
> > > haven't updated the ZIP yet.)
> > > http://www.box.net/shared/hxllbeglvc
> > > http://www.box.net/shared/mhcya0t2p9
> > >
> > > Pieter
> > >
> > > 2011/2/17 James Mason <bear...@opensuse.org>:
> > > > On Feb 17, 2011 1:44 PM, "Helen South" <helen.so...@opensuse.org> wrote:
> > > >> I'm biased because I'm an LXDE user. It's a great desktop - it has a
> > > >> feel more like Gnome, complete and not too minimal, but light enough
> > > >> to run on my old laptop. The openSUSE implementation is excellent.
> > > >> (Suspend and wireless work!)
> > > >>
> > > >> It's the default for the popular Knoppix live CD and is the
> > > >> (unnoffician?) Ubuntu Lite desktop in Lubuntu.
> > > >>
> > > >> Certainly we don't want to crowd things, but if it can be done neatly,
> > > >> by all means include LXDE.
> > > >>
> > > >> 'rules' for writing are guides, not straightjackets.
> > > >>
> > > >> cheers
> > > >>
> > > >> Helen
> > > >
> > > > +1 for LXDE.  It's a fast moving project, having just been added in
> > > > 11.3. IMO Xfce has lost its way, being now nearly the same memory
> > > > footprint as Gnome.
> > > >
> > > > - James Mason
> > > >
> > > >> On Fri, Feb 18, 2011 at 4:43 AM, Pieter De Decker
> > > >> <pdedec...@gmail.com>
> > > >>
> > > >> wrote:
> > > >> > Hi Stuart,
> > > >> >
> > > >> >> Is it possible to add LXDE also after XFCE?
> > > >> >
> > > >> > Listing four environments would be overkill if you ask me. I've
> > > >> > followed the rule of threes:
> > > >> > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rule_of_three_(writing)
> > > >> >
> > > >> > This is by no means objectively measurable, but to me it just feels
> > > >> > right to list three environments instead of two or four.
> > > >> >
> > > >> > Here's what I'm suggesting: if there's reasonable proof that LXDE is
> > > >> > more popular and more active than Xfce, I'll replace the mention of
> > > >> > Xfce with LXDE. But I can't make everyone happy and keep the ad
> > > >> > relatively easy to read at the same time. (If there's a majority
> > > >> > that wants to see LXDE added, I'll change it of course.)
> > > >> >
> > > >> > Regards,
> > > >> > Pieter
> > > >> >
> > > >> > 2011/2/15 Stuart Tanner <stu...@bolin.org.uk>
> > > >> >
> > > >> >> Dear Pieter
> > > >> >>
> > > >> >> Is it possible to add LXDE also after XFCE?
> > > >> >>
> > > >> >> I know we can go on for ever, but I am building a specific project
> > > >> >> around
> > > >> >> LXDE, using LDM as a login manager on thin clients running
> > > >> >> kiwi-ltsp onnection
> > > >> >> to a server which then runs a remote x desktop with KDE?
> > > >> >>
> > > >> >> Kind Regards,
> > > >> >> Stuart
> > > >> >>
> > > >> >> On Tuesday 15 Feb 2011 20:27:04 Pieter De Decker wrote:
> > > >> >> > I've updated the "desktop environments" poster and slide. Low-res
> > > >> >> > preview
> > > >> >> > here: http://en.opensuse.org/images/9/9b/DeskEnvPoster.png
> > > >> >> >
> > > >> >> > I've updated posters.zip and slides.zip to include the new
> > > >> >> > version. Download links remain the same. You should see "Updated
> > > >> >> > Feb 15, 2011" at the top of the download page.
> > > >> >> >
> > > >> >> > Pieter
> > > >> >> >
> > > >> >> > 2011/2/15 Pieter De Decker <pdedec...@gmail.com>:
> > > >> >> > > Hi Kostas,
> > > >> >> > >
> > > >> >> > > Here you go, these are the Scribus source files:
> > > >> >> > > http://www.box.net/shared/czxins0f8y
> > > >> >> > >
> > > >> >> > > I'm going to remove that file from the server in a few days, so
> > > >> >> > > make
> > > >> >> > > sure that you save it. (I want to retain some control over who
> > > >> >> > > uses the source files.)
> > > >> >> > >
> > > >> >> > > As mentioned earlier in this thread, the "desktop environment"
> > > >> >> > > ad is
> > > >> >> > > still subject to change. I'll update it when I have the time,
> > > >> >> > > but you
> > > >> >> > > can use the current version if you want. Just keep in mind that
> > > >> >> > > openSUSE lets you choose from multiple desktop environments at
> > > >> >> > > install, not just KDE and GNOME as stated on the poster.
> > > >> >> > >
> > > >> >> > > Pieter
> > > >> >> > >
> > > >> >> > > 2011/2/15 Kostas Koudaras <warlord...@gmail.com>:
> > > >> >> > >> Hi Pieter
> > > >> >> > >> I think I answered  you at marketing list but in case I did
> > > >> >> > >> not ;-s ,
> > > >> >> > >> today (in less than an hour) we have the Meeting of the Greek
> > > >> >> > >> community and I will give them to people to translate and fix
> > > >> >> > >> them,
> > > >> >> > >> when it will be ready I will send you a copy to have it in
> > > >> >> > >> your archive and I will also uploaded at the
> > > >> >> > >> http://en.opensuse.org/openSUSE:Artwork_miscellaneous.
> > > >> >> > >> Once again Great work man.
> > > >> >> > >> Kostas
> > > >> >> > >>
> > > >> >> > >> 2011/2/15 Pieter De Decker <pdedec...@gmail.com>:
> > > >> >> > >>>> These are awesome, Pieter.  I just noticed one minor thing
> > > >> >> > >>>> on the
> > > >> >> > >>>>
> > > >> >> > >>>>desktop poster: users can select from the following
> > > >> >> > >>>>
> > > >> >> > >>>> desktop choices at setup without having to select software
> > > >> >> > >>>> packages:
> > > >> >> > >>>> Gnome, KDE, LXDE, XFCE, TWM, or text-only (unless the
> > > >> >> > >>>> installer has
> > > >> >> > >>>> changed a lot since 11.3).  http://goo.gl/RDZwo
> > > >> >> > >>>
> > > >> >> > >>> Woah, openSUSE continues to amaze me... I must have missed
> > > >> >> > >>> that when I
> > > >> >> > >>> installed my system. Those options are still there,
> > > >> >> > >>> apparently: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wrk9LA7P-Ck
> > > >> >> > >>>
> > > >> >> > >>> I'll let you know when the updated poster and slide ZIPs are
> > > >> >> > >>> ready.
> > > >> >> > >>>
> > > >> >> > >>> Pieter
> > > >> >> > >>>
> > > >> >> > >>> 2011/2/15 James Mason <bear...@opensuse.org>
> > > >> >> > >>>
> > > >> >> > >>>> These are awesome, Pieter.  I just noticed one minor thing
> > > >> >> > >>>> on the
> > > >> >> > >>>> desktop poster: users can select from the following desktop
> > > >> >> > >>>> choices
> > > >> >> > >>>> at setup without having to select software packages: Gnome,
> > > >> >> > >>>> KDE, LXDE, XFCE, TWM, or text-only (unless the installer has
> > > >> >> > >>>> changed a lot
> > > >> >> > >>>> since 11.3).  http://goo.gl/RDZwo
> > > >> >> > >>>>
> > > >> >> > >>>> On Feb 11, 2011 2:10 PM, "Pieter De Decker"
> > > >> >> > >>>> <pdedec...@gmail.com>
> > > >> >>
> > > >> >> wrote:
> > > >> >> > >>>> > Hi everyone,
> > > >> >> > >>>> >
> > > >> >> > >>>> > A few weeks ago, I shared drafts of some openSUSE posters
> > > >> >> > >>>> > I made. I
> > > >> >> > >>>> > finalized the posters tonight.
> > > >> >> > >>>> >
> > > >> >> > >>>> > I've made a total of six posters on various subjects:
> > > >> >> > >>>> > - openSUSE's stable/tumbleweed repositories
> > > >> >> > >>>> > - The community
> > > >> >> > >>>> > - YaST
> > > >> >> > >>>> > - The fact that openSUSE lets you choose KDE or GNOME
> > > >> >> > >>>> > during setup
> > > >> >> > >>>> > - Driver installs (or the lack thereof)
> > > >> >> > >>>> > - SUSE Studio: roll your own Linux distribution
> > > >> >> > >>>> >
> > > >> >> > >>>> > I've zipped up all posters and you can download 'em here:
> > > >> >> > >>>> > http://www.box.net/shared/hxllbeglvc
> > > >> >> > >>>> >
> > > >> >> > >>>> > Helen asked me if I wanted to make some slides for SCALE,
> > > >> >> > >>>> > so I made
> > > >> >> > >>>> > 16:9 widescreen versions of these posters. You can get the
> > > >> >> > >>>> > slides
> > > >> >> > >>>> > here:
> > > >> >> > >>>> > http://www.box.net/shared/mhcya0t2p9
> > > >> >> > >>>> >
> > > >> >> > >>>> > @Kostas: Here is the source of one of the posters. Can you
> > > >> >> > >>>> > test if
> > > >> >> > >>>> > you can open it (with correct fonts and images)? If so,
> > > >> >> > >>>> > I'll upload
> > > >> >> > >>>> > the other five posters so that you can translate them to
> > > >> >> > >>>> > Greek.
> > > >> >> > >>>> > http://www.box.net/shared/hfmvz1dxeu
> > > >> >> > >>>> >
> > > >> >> > >>>> > I've added myself to the marketing mailing list, so
> > > >> >> > >>>> > hopefully I
> > > >> >> > >>>> > won't miss any replies now.
> > > >> >> > >>>> >
> > > >> >> > >>>> > Cheers,
> > > >> >> > >>>> > Pieter De Decker
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> > Great ! Now we have a complete selection as openSUSE way it is. (GNOME,
> > KDE, LXDE, XFCE, Minimal , text, server)
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