On Tuesday 10 April 2007 12:03:13 am M Harris wrote: > On Monday 09 April 2007 16:31, Doug McGarrett wrote: > > If you're new to Unix/Linux, and you don't actually _need_VI, then use > > something friendly like MC, or pico, or joe. There's a whole text-book > > on VI, and this is not a user-friendly thing, and neither is EMACS, altho > > the old Unix hands will tell you it's the only way. It's not. If you > > never expect to use a real Unix system, fageddaboudit! > > > > (I've probably started a flame war here, but if you investigate for > > yourself, you'll find that I'm right.) > > > > --doug > > Well... I'm just incensed here... :-P > > ... first off, if you're new to unix, the very first thing you *must* > learn is vi, period, end of story.
No, the first thing a Linux *newbie* needs to learn is to get out of vi in case he becomes trapped. And that would be: [Esc]:q! For editing stuff as root from the user desktop: [Alt+F2] kdesu kate I hate it when people creep out newbies with vi and such. Maybe it will come down to those if necessity ever arises, but not at the beginning, certainly not as a newbie. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]