On Mon, 2008-01-14 at 16:03 +0100, Clayton wrote:
> > >> I'll go for not throwing up dependency errors if uninstalling, but it
> > >> definitely needs to be in the default install. Most users will want
> > >> Beagle.
> > >
> > I doubt this - all the users we have hate beagle and either remove it
> > or ask someone to remove it for them.
> 
> Exactly.  Other than a few on this mailing list, I have yet to meet
> ANYONE who likes or uses Beagle.  The issue is not whether or not
> these people do or do not use a desktop search tool... it's because of
> the major performance impact that happens when Beagle is running.
> 
> I can really see the usefulness of the concept behind Beagle...
> especially for a few end users that I know and help out from time to
> time.  The trade off though... The system performance impact they are
> all reporting is consistent... and it's consistent with my experience.
> 
> To those that say open a bug report... open it and say what?  Beagle
> is too slow?  Devs will want specifics (and rightly so).  I have no
> specifics other than to say that Beagle is not suitable to be used on
> a regular basis because of the performance impact I and every one else
> I know have experienced.... which is basically what almost everyone
> here is saying... minus the few who do have Beagle working fine.
> 
> I would like to know how they managed it... if the answer is something
> along the lines of "I opened a terminal, su to root, nice -19ed it and
> then issue this other long string of commands..."... sorry... that
> tells me that Beagle should not be given to the masses by default.  If
> it works by default, then why is it working for you and not the rest
> of us?  What is different?  I install a default install as given me by
> the openSUSE installer and Beagle is consistently a resource hog...
> not only on initial boot, but long long after as well.  This is the
> same (in my experience) on clean installs with no user data, and on my
> desktop with its 1.2TB of legacy data across 7 drives.  Something
> doesn't make sense here.
> 
> C.

I've had about 10 people installed openSUSE on their computer, (mainly
family members), told them to contact me if anything happens, and NONE
of them have complained about openSUSE being slow on their computers.
These are normal users, who use their computers after coming home from
work and to do things normal home users do, listen to music, surf the
web, check email, chat, write word processor stuff, etc. 

What am I saying? I think that most users use Beagle, or don't have a
complaint with the speed of the system. 

Perhaps all the main commenters here should subscribe to the Beagle
mailing list, and have this discussion there. Otherwise, I don;t see
what the point of having this discussion on the openSUSE list is.
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