> 1) Changing the behavior of the PropertyTag hurts our userbase. I couldn't agree more, although I don't think anyone is advocating the existing tag should be altered (?!).
> 2) Adding addional tags makes the PropertyTag (and the taglibs as a > whole) more confusing, not less. Assuming any replacement tag(s) are of a cleaner design than the current property tag, then I'm not convinced that the above point is valid. By adding the new tags and deprecating the existing property tag, the taglibs become *less* confusing, especially to new users. No new user is going to go near the property tag if it is clearly documented as deprecated. And because the new tags are simpler, this counts as a win for the new user. I agree that existing users will have a learning curve. This curve seems very shallow to me though - I'd be interested in seeing a confusing example when comparing the existing vs the new tags. Existing users will however have to decide at what point, if any, they migrate away from the property tag. This migration is the only true downside I can see for these users. Even if by some miracle they are already using the property tag to its full potential, suggesting that they'll be confused by the new, simplified tags doesn't strike me as a convincing argument. OTOH users who are only using the property tag in a basic fashion (which I imagine is a far more case?), may wonder why the change in tags is occurring at all, but the learning curve still seems shallow enough that I can't see this being an issue. Regardless, documented examples of how to port existing JSP pages to the new tags given various scenarios will go a long, long way to overcoming any difficulties here. What I find the most amusing about all this is that up until this debate started, virtually nobody, developers included, seemed to know all the ins and outs of the current property tag anyway. If that doesn't indicate something's wrong with that tag, I don't know what does :-) Chris "trying but struggling to see why there is so much resistance to what seems like a change for the better" Miller ------------------------------------------------------- This sf.net email is sponsored by:ThinkGeek Welcome to geek heaven. http://thinkgeek.com/sf _______________________________________________ Opensymphony-webwork mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/opensymphony-webwork