OK - look - this is now officially 'fucking ridiculous'. I've been quiet recently on the lists in the hope this would all sort itself out, but it hasn't.
What has happened? People are becoming more and more entrenched in their positions, not thinking, being sarcastic (which does NOT help at all) and just generally getting angry. And I mean people on both sides - if I was pointing fingers, it would be quicker to point fingers at people who had been 'nice'. Mike's new rules: 1. it is just as easy to write an email and hit delete, not send 2. if you only have sarcastic comments, see 1. 3. if you only have caustic jabs at other people, see 1. 4. if you refuse to listen to other's arguments and engage in useful discussion about them, please see 1. Again - these are aimed at everyone. This is not constructive. Please check your biases, anger and sarcasm at the door and leave them off the list. I don't care if you wrote every line of code in webwork, or you can't even understand Java - being nice and constructive are not hard. If anyone disagrees, please speak up. -mike On 12/11/02 6:40 AM, "Aapo Laakkonen" ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) penned the words: >> You might not like Anders for the changes he made >> without asking, but this this stubbornness is pretty >> sickening. > > I have been wathing this arguing and disagreements with Pat and Maurice > silently over the weeks. For me, it seems like Webwork is going out of > hand (or nothing is happening) (developers don't know what to do, and if > they have an idea, they cannot implement it). Also, you promote that > WebWork is View Independent. Why most of these conversations here are > about JSP taglibs? I still think that JSP and most importantly taglibs > suck (with capital s of course), YMMV. > > What was good about these discussions, was the fact that someone pointed > me to Maverick. It's a whole lot cleaner and simpler to understand and > extend than WebWork, so I go with it. > > Whether these discussions are good for WebWork's development and future, > for me they didn't look very good. Actually they throw me away from > using WebWork, :-( - I'm not interested in wathing these fights go on > and on, only because two main developers disagree on almost every > aspect. > > Patrick: > > I think you have great ideas and much potential (and energy) to write > your own SquadWork and forget these ugly fights. > > This was a response from community, but I only have one small vote. I'm > going to watch how you are going to proceed with WebWork and maybe I > come back when Xwork is ready for the prime time. Thanks for the > support! I still like WebWork (and your work), but I also like change, > and now it's time for a change, thought not very big one, because > Maverick is very similar. > > And I do not have nothing to do with Maverick, I only discovered it last > week. > > Peace > Aapo Laakkonen > > > > ------------------------------------------------------- > This sf.net email is sponsored by:ThinkGeek > Welcome to geek heaven. > http://thinkgeek.com/sf > _______________________________________________ > Opensymphony-webwork mailing list > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/opensymphony-webwork ------------------------------------------------------- This sf.net email is sponsored by:ThinkGeek Welcome to geek heaven. http://thinkgeek.com/sf _______________________________________________ Opensymphony-webwork mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/opensymphony-webwork
