Kirk, As a guide, we've been shipping code based on 1.3 for a few months now. And yes, we use millions of UI tags ;)
I agree with you in general though - talk of 1.4 is silly when 1.3 isn't out yet! Cheers, Mike ATLASSIAN - http://www.atlassian.com Expert J2EE Software, Services and Support On 14/1/03 7:34 AM, "Kirk Rasmussen" ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) penned the words: > Hello everyone! > > I'm very pleased to make the transition towards using the WW > framework for our development group and I would like to > contribute back to the project. > > I choose to use WW over Struts as our standard MVC framework > about a month ago after reading about it in various blogs and > mailing lists. I downloaded the 1.2.1 version and started > developing with it because it was the only release available at > the time. > > After using WW for about 3 weeks and as an outside observer on > this list for some time now it seems to me that there needs to be > separate teams focused on the 1.2, 1.3, XWork, and now 1.4 > branches?? > > There are a number of issues that still need to be resolved with > the 1.2 release IMHO. I've spoken with a number of people with > more WW experience than I and the common theme I've heard is > "don't use the UI tags". > > Why is that? Now that I've used them I know why...performance. > As a new user it is disconcerting that the WW docs and examples > are geared towards using the UI tags but in real world usage now > I've been told not to use them by a number of people. I have gotten > a lot of helpful advice on how to solve the performance problem > (e.g. OSCache, patching BeanUtil class, etc.) but if WW is to grow > as a community like Struts has, I think the current branch needs to > be polished before moving on to the next big thing (1.3, XWork > or 1.4?) > > I realize that the UI tags aren't necessary and that they are only > a small part of the rest of the WW architecture. In our environment, > the engineers are out numbered by the content folks by an 5 to 1 ratio. > It is important that the pages be as simple as possible. Our pages that > are released to production tend to get duplicated (copy & paste from > examples) and maintenance of the pages becomes a nightmare. > > I think new users will tend to download the most stable version of a product > instead of the latest cutting edge version especially when documentation is > lacking. > > What do you guys think? Is 1.2 a lost cause at this point? Is it better > to focus on the 1.3 release only? > > Regards, > Kirk Rasmussen > Lucasfilm Ltd. > >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Jason Carreira [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] >> Sent: Monday, January 13, 2003 11:17 AM >> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> Subject: [OS-webwork] Scope for 1.4 >> >> >> So, after we finally push 1.3 out the door, we're going to >> need an idea >> of what should be in 1.4. My suggestion would be refactor the >> GenericDispatcher and ActionFactory to put the Interceptor >> code in, and >> have a relatively quick release after 1.3 with that stuff >> added (and any >> bug fixes). >> >> Thoughts? >> >> Jason >> >> -- >> Jason Carreira >> Technical Architect, Notiva Corp. >> phone: 585.240.2793 >> fax: 585.272.8118 >> email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> --- >> Notiva - optimizing trade relationships (tm) >> >> >> >> ------------------------------------------------------- >> This SF.NET email is sponsored by: FREE SSL Guide from Thawte >> are you planning your Web Server Security? Click here to get a FREE >> Thawte SSL guide and find the answers to all your SSL >> security issues. >> http://ads.sourceforge.net/cgi-bin/redirect.pl?thaw0026en >> _______________________________________________ >> Opensymphony-webwork mailing list >> [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/opensymphony-webwork >> > > > ------------------------------------------------------- > This SF.NET email is sponsored by: FREE SSL Guide from Thawte > are you planning your Web Server Security? Click here to get a FREE > Thawte SSL guide and find the answers to all your SSL security issues. > http://ads.sourceforge.net/cgi-bin/redirect.pl?thaw0026en > _______________________________________________ > Opensymphony-webwork mailing list > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/opensymphony-webwork ------------------------------------------------------- This SF.NET email is sponsored by: FREE SSL Guide from Thawte are you planning your Web Server Security? Click here to get a FREE Thawte SSL guide and find the answers to all your SSL security issues. http://ads.sourceforge.net/cgi-bin/redirect.pl?thaw0026en _______________________________________________ Opensymphony-webwork mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/opensymphony-webwork