Kirk,

Well - yes and no. JIRA uses OSCache, but not for the UI tags. None of those
are cached at all, and we have literally hundreds ;)

OSCache is only used where certain pages take a long time to generate for
various reasons (most often because of the computations required to
calculate the data set being displayed).

We also use a lot of select tags, some with up to 100 elements, and their
time to render is not significant?

Cheers,
Mike

On 15/1/03 12:34 PM, "Kirk Rasmussen" ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) penned
the words:

> I assume that JIRA uses OSCache, right?  Jive 3.0 default skin
> uses webwork also but they avoid the UI tags completely.
> 
> Here is what I did to make my countries list very fast.
> 
> It isn't ideal but it works and it was plugin compatible to the
> <ui:select> tag.
> 
> FYI I got the execution time down from 13 seconds to 0.0020 seconds.
> 
> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Peter Kelley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
>> Sent: Tuesday, January 14, 2003 4:23 PM
>> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> Subject: Re: [OS-webwork] Scope for 1.4
>> 
>> 
>> Mike,
>> 
>> We use JIRA and the performance is fine but our product webwork code
>> performance is awful at the moment. Have you any tips for the
>> performance challenged ?
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On Tue, 2003-01-14 at 16:00, Mike Cannon-Brookes wrote:
>>> Kirk,
>>> 
>>> As a guide, we've been shipping code based on 1.3 for a few
>> months now. And
>>> yes, we use millions of UI tags ;)
>>> 
>>> I agree with you in general though - talk of 1.4 is silly
>> when 1.3 isn't out
>>> yet!
>>> 
>>> Cheers,
>>> Mike
>>> 
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>>> On 14/1/03 7:34 AM, "Kirk Rasmussen"
>> ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) penned
>>> the words:
>>> 
>>>> Hello everyone!
>>>> 
>>>> I'm very pleased to make the transition towards using the WW
>>>> framework for our development group and I would like to
>>>> contribute back to the project.
>>>> 
>>>> I choose to use WW over Struts as our standard MVC framework
>>>> about a month ago after reading about it in various blogs and
>>>> mailing lists.  I downloaded the 1.2.1 version and started
>>>> developing with it because it was the only release available at
>>>> the time.
>>>> 
>>>> After using WW for about 3 weeks and as an outside observer on
>>>> this list for some time now it seems to me that there needs to be
>>>> separate teams focused on the 1.2, 1.3, XWork, and now 1.4
>>>> branches??  
>>>> 
>>>> There are a number of issues that still need to be resolved with
>>>> the 1.2 release IMHO.  I've spoken with a number of people with
>>>> more WW experience than I and the common theme I've heard is
>>>> "don't use the UI tags".
>>>> 
>>>> Why is that?  Now that I've used them I know why...performance.
>>>> As a new user it is disconcerting that the WW docs and examples
>>>> are geared towards using the UI tags but in real world usage now
>>>> I've been told not to use them by a number of people.  I
>> have gotten
>>>> a lot of helpful advice on how to solve the performance problem
>>>> (e.g. OSCache, patching BeanUtil class, etc.) but if WW is to grow
>>>> as a community like Struts has, I think the current
>> branch needs to
>>>> be polished before moving on to the next big thing (1.3, XWork
>>>> or 1.4?)  
>>>> 
>>>> I realize that the UI tags aren't necessary and that they are only
>>>> a small part of the  rest of the WW architecture.  In our
>> environment,
>>>> the engineers are out numbered by the content folks by an
>> 5 to 1 ratio.
>>>> It is important that the pages be as simple as possible.
>> Our pages that
>>>> are released to production tend to get duplicated (copy &
>> paste from
>>>> examples) and maintenance of the pages becomes a nightmare.
>>>> 
>>>> I think new users will tend to download the most stable
>> version of a product
>>>> instead of the latest cutting edge version especially
>> when documentation is
>>>> lacking.
>>>> 
>>>> What do you guys think?  Is 1.2 a lost cause at this
>> point?  Is it better
>>>> to focus on the 1.3 release only?
>>>> 
>>>> Regards,
>>>> Kirk Rasmussen
>>>> Lucasfilm Ltd.
>>>> 
>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>> From: Jason Carreira [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
>>>>> Sent: Monday, January 13, 2003 11:17 AM
>>>>> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>>>> Subject: [OS-webwork] Scope for 1.4
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> So, after we finally push 1.3 out the door, we're going to
>>>>> need an idea
>>>>> of what should be in 1.4. My suggestion would be refactor the
>>>>> GenericDispatcher and ActionFactory to put the Interceptor
>>>>> code in, and
>>>>> have a relatively quick release after 1.3 with that stuff
>>>>> added (and any
>>>>> bug fixes). 
>>>>> 
>>>>> Thoughts?
>>>>> 
>>>>> Jason
>>>>> 
>>>>> --
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