Mike,

We use JIRA and the performance is fine but our product webwork code
performance is awful at the moment. Have you any tips for the
performance challenged ?



On Tue, 2003-01-14 at 16:00, Mike Cannon-Brookes wrote:
> Kirk,
> 
> As a guide, we've been shipping code based on 1.3 for a few months now. And
> yes, we use millions of UI tags ;)
> 
> I agree with you in general though - talk of 1.4 is silly when 1.3 isn't out
> yet!
> 
> Cheers,
> Mike
> 
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> On 14/1/03 7:34 AM, "Kirk Rasmussen" ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) penned
> the words:
> 
> > Hello everyone!
> > 
> > I'm very pleased to make the transition towards using the WW
> > framework for our development group and I would like to
> > contribute back to the project.
> > 
> > I choose to use WW over Struts as our standard MVC framework
> > about a month ago after reading about it in various blogs and
> > mailing lists.  I downloaded the 1.2.1 version and started
> > developing with it because it was the only release available at
> > the time.
> > 
> > After using WW for about 3 weeks and as an outside observer on
> > this list for some time now it seems to me that there needs to be
> > separate teams focused on the 1.2, 1.3, XWork, and now 1.4
> > branches??  
> > 
> > There are a number of issues that still need to be resolved with
> > the 1.2 release IMHO.  I've spoken with a number of people with
> > more WW experience than I and the common theme I've heard is
> > "don't use the UI tags".
> > 
> > Why is that?  Now that I've used them I know why...performance.
> > As a new user it is disconcerting that the WW docs and examples
> > are geared towards using the UI tags but in real world usage now
> > I've been told not to use them by a number of people.  I have gotten
> > a lot of helpful advice on how to solve the performance problem
> > (e.g. OSCache, patching BeanUtil class, etc.) but if WW is to grow
> > as a community like Struts has, I think the current branch needs to
> > be polished before moving on to the next big thing (1.3, XWork
> > or 1.4?)  
> > 
> > I realize that the UI tags aren't necessary and that they are only
> > a small part of the  rest of the WW architecture.  In our environment,
> > the engineers are out numbered by the content folks by an 5 to 1 ratio.
> > It is important that the pages be as simple as possible.  Our pages that
> > are released to production tend to get duplicated (copy & paste from
> > examples) and maintenance of the pages becomes a nightmare.
> > 
> > I think new users will tend to download the most stable version of a product
> > instead of the latest cutting edge version especially when documentation is
> > lacking.
> > 
> > What do you guys think?  Is 1.2 a lost cause at this point?  Is it better
> > to focus on the 1.3 release only?
> > 
> > Regards,
> > Kirk Rasmussen
> > Lucasfilm Ltd.
> > 
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: Jason Carreira [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> >> Sent: Monday, January 13, 2003 11:17 AM
> >> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >> Subject: [OS-webwork] Scope for 1.4
> >> 
> >> 
> >> So, after we finally push 1.3 out the door, we're going to
> >> need an idea
> >> of what should be in 1.4. My suggestion would be refactor the
> >> GenericDispatcher and ActionFactory to put the Interceptor
> >> code in, and
> >> have a relatively quick release after 1.3 with that stuff
> >> added (and any
> >> bug fixes). 
> >> 
> >> Thoughts?
> >> 
> >> Jason
> >> 
> >> --
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