Jira seems to be down still. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jason Carreira" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Monday, August 18, 2003 2:59 AM Subject: RE: [OS-webwork] Simplicity of WW2 - Practical ideas
I'm open to having a package-wide default action package which would be appended to action class names. Did someone create that Jira issue yet? > -----Original Message----- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Sunday, August 17, 2003 7:25 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: [OS-webwork] Simplicity of WW2 - Practical ideas > > > from an outsiders point of view.. i think i'd have to admit > that requiring a proper classname everywhere would actually > increase complexity. > but it is nice to be able to think of actions by their name, > it seems a but superfluous when you're constantly changing > their names.. i like thinking of them as entities, jsut like > i like to do in plain java code... an import sets the > namespace or whatever. maybe the examples could use fully > blown classnames to help the newbie. but why couldnt we have > something like the prefix action proxy in ww1 as well? i like > not having to depend on any tools to help me get the work > done, and being to type it all out in plain text.. and i > guess even copy-paste is a tool... > those are my 2 cents.. > > Ian Pojman > > On Mon, Aug 18, 2003 at 08:24:18AM +1000, Mike Cannon-Brookes wrote: > > Anders, > > > > I have to say that this is a _bad_ idea. > > > > You can already test actions to setup xwork.xml - just > instantiate the > > object, call your setter methods and run! > > > > People doing J2EE understand XML, they have to. All descriptors are > > XML. Xwork.xml is not _that_ complex for a hello world > example, most > > of the elements are optional. > > > > However, there _is_ a problem with WW2 at the moment that > if a view is > > not found, no debug page is shown. I think it should be ("action > > returned "input" but not "input" view found). > > > > M > > > > > > On 18/8/03 8:03 AM, "boxed" ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) penned the words: > > > > > I had a discussion on #java with Epesh, and he expressed the > > > sentiment that WW2 might be turning into a too complex > system which > > > will alienate new users and be "popular with the > gearheads and such > > > when it leaves nerd-domain". After reading the responses to the > > > "Simplicity in WW2" email I must agree that it looks like this. > > > > > > Now, to make me sound less like a whiner and more like > someone with > > > good ideas, here is a practical proposal: > > > > > > The way you have to declare each action in a rather complex XML > > > config file before even rudimentary testing increases the > > > learning-curve needlessly. I propose a few simple > features that will > > > help the average > > > users: > > > > > > Actions can be run with the fully qualified class name. > Actions map > > > by default to > > > 1. a view document with the name of the action. > > > 2. if 1 fails, a debug document that displays a list of the > > > exposed properties and their current value. > > > > > > This will cut the amount of explaining needed for a hello > world type > > > app down by an entire step. Anyone else got ideas like this that > > > will cut down on the learning curve for newbies? > > > > > > Anders Hovmöller > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------- > > > This SF.Net email sponsored by: Free pre-built ASP.NET sites > > > including Data Reports, E-commerce, Portals, and Forums are > > > available now. 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