I'm not sure if the change for the Integration part in the PDR is kind of 'politically' caused. Since JBoss is a J2EE and there was not much time for Gavin to finish the PDR, it was maybe simply the easiest way to get the spec finished. Sure it makes EJB and JMS integration a lot easier, but then there are other scenarios where EJB and JMS is not required at all.
So for me I'd prefer to still have 2 ways to get OpenWebBeans running: 1.) with Geronimo in an J2EE environment where we provide the full EJB and JMS integration 2.) SE with a ServletContextListener running on a simple webserver like tomcat or jetty + MyFaces + OpenJPA, which would be THE killer criteria to be competitive with Spring! LieGrue, strub --- Gurkan Erdogdu <gurkanerdo...@yahoo.com> schrieb am Fr, 23.1.2009: > Von: Gurkan Erdogdu <gurkanerdo...@yahoo.com> > Betreff: Re: M1-Release Content > An: openwebbeans-dev@incubator.apache.org > Datum: Freitag, 23. Januar 2009, 20:37 > +1 Mark. > > As Mark said, it is good idea to read the PDR in the > weekend and puts all the issues that we do not handle so far > into the jira. I am thinking about the server integration > point. Because the specification removes the plug-in > functionality. How do we handle this ? How do we integrate > the OpenWebBeans with Geronimo ? Currently, OpenWebBeans > supports the WAR deployment via ServletContextListener as a > plugin functionality. In this scenario, we are scanning the > WAR archive to setup the initial Manager(activity) via > listener. > > Currently we do not support for the EJB's. I have > looked at the WebBeansScanner class today, the EJB scanning > seems to be implemented wrongly. As Mark indicated before, > we could create a another module for EJB integration. > > What do you think about integration code? How can we start > this? Maybe we can talk about it after reading the spec. > this weekend. > > And what do you think about the date of the M1-Release and > M1-Release Content that I have sent before? > > Thanks; > > /Gurkan > > > > > ________________________________ > From: Mark Struberg <strub...@yahoo.de> > To: openwebbeans-dev@incubator.apache.org > Sent: Friday, January 23, 2009 8:24:37 PM > Subject: Re: M1-Release Content > > Hi folks! > > Before we click on the red button finally, I'd like to > ask if we really do like to release M1 NOW? > > Gavin today published the public review draft of the spec, > and it contains a lot of changes which do change WebBeans a > lot. > > e.g. the change of the packages, EJB handling etc. > > Do we really like to release M1 today? > Or should we better take 2 days, read through the final > spec, create Jiras for all things we have to do, then > prioritise them and finally do a M1 release next week? > > Otherwise we have to admit that without e.g. the package > changes, we will have to ship a M2 very quickly. Otoh we > could try how good our release process works already ;) > > WDYT? > > LieGrue, > strub > > --- Gurkan Erdogdu <gurkanerdo...@yahoo.com> schrieb > am Do, 22.1.2009: > > > Von: Gurkan Erdogdu <gurkanerdo...@yahoo.com> > > Betreff: Re: M1-Release Content > > An: openwebbeans-dev@incubator.apache.org > > Datum: Donnerstag, 22. Januar 2009, 19:48 > > Hi, > > > > Do not worry Mohammad, we know that the open source is > the > > volenteer process. > > > > You are always welcome whenever you have time to help > to > > the OpenWebBeans! > > > > Thanks a lot; > > > > Cheers; > > > > /Gurkan > > > > > > > > > > ________________________________ > > From: Mohammad Nour El-Din > <nour.moham...@gmail.com> > > To: openwebbeans-dev@incubator.apache.org > > Sent: Thursday, January 22, 2009 5:59:58 PM > > Subject: Re: M1-Release Content > > > > I am thinking after having the Vote over M1 approved > that I > > start > > working on M2 beside JIRA for sure. > > > > I just want you to know that I am not totally free for > oss > > development. I only do whatever I can in my free time > :-). > > I mean I > > hope your not sad of not working on the former items > :-). > > > > On Thu, Jan 22, 2009 at 5:37 PM, Gurkan Erdogdu > > <gurkanerdo...@yahoo.com> wrote: > > > Hi Mohammad, > > > yeap I did this stuff. > > > > > > You could look for the jira for any further > issues :) > > > > > > > > > thanks; > > > > > > Gurkan > > > > > > > > > ________________________________ > > > From: Mohammad Nour El-Din > > <nour.moham...@gmail.com> > > > To: openwebbeans-dev@incubator.apache.org > > > Sent: Thursday, January 22, 2009 2:02:17 PM > > > Subject: Re: M1-Release Content > > > > > > Sorry but now I don't understand I thought > that > > all the points in the > > > list are not implemented yet, it seems that I > > undertsood wrong. Is > > > there anything else I can do, I may have time > during > > this weekend. > > > > > > On Thu, Jan 22, 2009 at 2:00 PM, Mohammad Nour > El-Din > > > <nour.moham...@gmail.com> wrote: > > >> All done ? > > >> > > >> > > >> On Tue, Jan 20, 2009 at 11:25 PM, Gurkan > Erdogdu > > >> <gurkanerdo...@yahoo.com> wrote: > > >>> Its done. > > >>> > > >>> /Gurkan > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> ________________________________ > > >>> From: Gurkan Erdogdu > > <gurkanerdo...@yahoo.com> > > >>> To: openwebbeans-dev@incubator.apache.org > > >>> Sent: Tuesday, January 20, 2009 8:56:41 > AM > > >>> Subject: Re: M1-Release Content > > >>> > > >>> Ok, Mohammad. > > >>> Thanks; > > >>> > > >>> /Gurkan > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> ________________________________ > > >>> From: Mohammad Nour El-Din > > <nour.moham...@gmail.com> > > >>> To: openwebbeans-dev@incubator.apache.org > > >>> Sent: Monday, January 19, 2009 11:19:24 > PM > > >>> Subject: Re: M1-Release Content > > >>> > > >>> Hey Gurkan... > > >>> > > >>> No not really I have been too busy at > work > > :-( . I will start work > > >>> on the issues as soon as I have some free > > time. If you started to work > > >>> on them please let me know so I work on > free > > issues. > > >>> > > >>> On Mon, Jan 19, 2009 at 9:18 PM, Gurkan > > Erdogdu <gurkanerdo...@yahoo.com> wrote: > > >>>> Hey Mohammad; > > >>>> > > >>>> Is there any progress on this issue > :) ? > > >>>> > > >>>> Thanks; > > >>>> > > >>>> /Gurkan > > >>>> > > >>>> > > >>>> > > >>>> > > >>>> > > >>>> ________________________________ > > >>>> From: Mohammad Nour El-Din > > <nour.moham...@gmail.com> > > >>>> To: > openwebbeans-dev@incubator.apache.org > > >>>> Sent: Friday, January 16, 2009 > 7:11:43 PM > > >>>> Subject: Re: M1-Release Content > > >>>> > > >>>> Oh sorry :-) you mean the items > listed in > > the quoted text of this > > >>>> thread :-) right ? anyway I will > start > > working on them as much as I > > >>>> can and I will send you a mail on > Sunday > > to tell what I have done of > > >>>> them. > > >>>> > > >>>> On Fri, Jan 16, 2009 at 7:04 PM, > Mohammad > > Nour El-Din > > >>>> <nour.moham...@gmail.com> > wrote: > > >>>>> Hi Gurkan... > > >>>>> > > >>>>> Sorry but what Items you are > > referring to ? > > >>>>> > > >>>>> On Fri, Jan 16, 2009 at 9:01 AM, > > Gurkan Erdogdu <gurkanerdo...@yahoo.com> wrote: > > >>>>>> Hi Mohammad, > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> Could you do anything about > the > > following items? If not I will start to finish them. > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> I wish that we are able to > ready > > at start of the next week for M1-Release VOTE ? > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> Thanks; > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>Hi Gurkan... > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>>>> I noticed that from > the > > SCM mails :-). I will check the mails for > > >>>>>>>>>any other required > > items. > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> On Tue, Jan 13, 2009 at 12:55 > AM, > > Gurkan Erdogdu > > >>>>>> > <gurkanerdo...@yahoo.com> > > wrote: > > >>>>>>> Hi Mohammad; > > >>>>>>> > > >>>>>>> I attacked the two of > them in > > the late night :) > > >>>>>>> > > >>>>>>> 1* I added the *licences* > > directory for binary distribution of the project. You > can > > reach > > >>>>>> all the distribution related > > stuffs under the */distribution* directory. > > >>>>>>> 2* I changed the artifact > > names of the *webbeans-api* and *webbeans-impl* to > > *openwebbeans-api* > > >>>>>> and *openwebbeans-impl* > > >>>>>>> > > >>>>>>> Its great that you can > start > > any other items. > > >>>>>>> > > >>>>>>> Thanks a lot; > > >>>>>>> > > >>>>>>> /Gurkan > > >>>>>>> > > >>>>>>> > > >>>>>>> > > >>>>>>> > > >>>>>>> > > ________________________________ > > >>>>>>> From: Mohammad Nour > El-Din > > <nour.moham...@gmail.com> > > >>>>>>> To: > > openwebbeans-dev@incubator.apache.org > > >>>>>>> Sent: Monday, January 12, > 2009 > > 9:12:13 PM > > >>>>>>> Subject: Re: M1- Release > > Content > > >>>>>>> > > >>>>>>> Hi Gurkan... > > >>>>>>> > > >>>>>>> If you are not already > > started to work on these issues, I will start > > >>>>>>> working on them tomorrow. > > >>>>>>> > > >>>>>>> On Mon, Jan 12, 2009 at > 6:38 > > AM, Kevan Miller <kevan.mil...@gmail.com> wrote: > > >>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>> On Jan 11, 2009, at > 5:34 > > PM, Gurkan Erdogdu wrote: > > >>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>> Hi; > > >>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>> We are planning > to > > release the M1 version of the > > >>>>>>>>> OpenWebBeans . So > far > > we have finished the some parts of the > > >>>>>>>>> specification and > the > > nearly all of the build and release management > > >>>>>>>>> tasks. > > >>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>> M1 release will > > support the following items; > > >>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>> * Simple WebBeans > > Support > > >>>>>>>>> * Producer Method > > Support > > >>>>>>>>> * Event and > Observer > > Support > > >>>>>>>>> * Decorator and > > Interceptor Support > > >>>>>>>>> * Experimental > XML > > Configuration Support > > >>>>>>>>> * Lookup and > > Dependency Injection Support > > >>>>>>>>> * Java EE Plugin > > Support (via ServetContextListener interface) > > >>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>> Remaining parts > of the > > specification that we did not handle in this > > >>>>>>>>> release are the > > following items; > > >>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>> * Enterprise > WebBeans > > Support > > >>>>>>>>> * JMS WebBeans > Support > > >>>>>>>>> * Producer Field > > Support > > >>>>>>>>> * Servlet > Injection > > Support > > >>>>>>>>> * Inheritance and > > Realization Support > > >>>>>>>>> * Common > Annotations > > Support > > >>>>>>>>> * Full Support > for > > Validation Checks > > >>>>>>>>> * Passivation > Scope > > and Serialization Operations > > >>>>>>>>> * Full Support > for XML > > Configuration > > >>>>>>>>> * Java EE > Container > > Integration Support (SPI) > > >>>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>>> ? What do you > think > > about the content of the M1 release ? > > >>>>>>>>> ? Has it enough > > functionalities to create the release or we may > delay it > > >>>>>>>>> to another date > for > > adding more functionality ? > > >>>>>>>>> ? What is your > further > > comments and advices? > > >>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>> IMO, that's > enough for > > a M1 release. > > >>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>> I built the current > trunk > > code and took a quick review. Here are some > > >>>>>>>> comments... > > >>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>> * I think the LICENCE > file > > needs to reference the licences directory. I'd > > >>>>>>>> actually recommend > that > > these be renamed LICENSE > > >>>>>>>> * The NOTICE file > does not > > conform to the requirements of the ASF. See -- > > >>>>>>>> > > http://www.apache.org/legal/src-headers.html#notice > (e.g. > > there's no > > >>>>>>>> COPYRIGHT) > > >>>>>>>> * Also, I doubt that > the > > contents of the NOTICE file is correct. All it does > > >>>>>>>> is provide > attribution to > > embedded projects. However, some licenses (e.g. > > >>>>>>>> ASL requires that > NOTICES > > be reproduced). > > >>>>>>>> * The binary > distributions > > do not contain the licences directory. The > > >>>>>>>> licenses must either > be in > > the LICENSE file, or you must create a licenses > > >>>>>>>> directory. I actually > > prefer a single license file, but licenses dirs are > > >>>>>>>> used by some > projects. As > > long as all licenses are available, I'm ok either > > >>>>>>>> way. > > >>>>>>>> * All OpenWebBeans > > jars/wars/etc. need to contain a META-INF/LICENSE and > > >>>>>>>> META-INF/NOTICE files > > >>>>>>>> * Hmmm. Seems like > > "webbeans-impl.jar" be > > "openwebbeans-impl.jar" > > >>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>> Enough for tonight... > > >>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>> --kevan > > >>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>>> > > >>>>>>> > > >>>>>>> > > >>>>>>> > > >>>>>>> -- > > >>>>>>> ---- > > >>>>>>> Thanks > > >>>>>>> - Mohammad Nour > > >>>>>>> - LinkedIn: > > http://www.linkedin.com/in/mnour > > >>>>>>> ---- > > >>>>>>> "Life is like riding > a > > bicycle. To keep your balance you must keep > moving" > > >>>>>>> - Albert Einstein > > >>>>>>> > > >>>>>>> > > >>>>>>> > > >>>>>>> > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> -- > > >>>>>> ---- > > >>>>>> Thanks > > >>>>>> - Mohammad Nour > > >>>>>> - LinkedIn: > > http://www.linkedin.com/in/mnour > > >>>>>> ---- > > >>>>>> "Life is like riding a > > bicycle. To keep your balance you must keep > moving" > > >>>>>> - Albert Einstein > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> > > >>>>>> > > >>>>> > > >>>>> > > >>>>> > > >>>>> -- > > >>>>> ---- > > >>>>> Thanks > > >>>>> - Mohammad Nour > > >>>>> - LinkedIn: > > http://www.linkedin.com/in/mnour > > >>>>> ---- > > >>>>> "Life is like riding a > bicycle. > > To keep your balance you must keep moving" > > >>>>> - Albert Einstein > > >>>>> > > >>>> > > >>>> > > >>>> > > >>>> -- > > >>>> ---- > > >>>> Thanks > > >>>> - Mohammad Nour > > >>>> - LinkedIn: > > http://www.linkedin.com/in/mnour > > >>>> ---- > > >>>> "Life is like riding a bicycle. > To > > keep your balance you must keep moving" > > >>>> - Albert Einstein > > >>>> > > >>>> > > >>>> > > >>>> > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> -- > > >>> ---- > > >>> Thanks > > >>> - Mohammad Nour > > >>> - LinkedIn: > http://www.linkedin.com/in/mnour > > >>> ---- > > >>> "Life is like riding a bicycle. To > keep > > your balance you must keep moving" > > >>> - Albert Einstein > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> -- > > >> ---- > > >> Thanks > > >> - Mohammad Nour > > >> - LinkedIn: http://www.linkedin.com/in/mnour > > >> ---- > > >> "Life is like riding a bicycle. To keep > your > > balance you must keep moving" > > >> - Albert Einstein > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > ---- > > > Thanks > > > - Mohammad Nour > > > - LinkedIn: http://www.linkedin.com/in/mnour > > > ---- > > > "Life is like riding a bicycle. To keep your > > balance you must keep moving" > > > - Albert Einstein > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > ---- > > Thanks > > - Mohammad Nour > > - LinkedIn: http://www.linkedin.com/in/mnour > > ---- > > "Life is like riding a bicycle. To keep your > balance > > you must keep moving" > > - Albert Einstein
