Hi Med,

I think that this should be a normative reference, but I don’t think that 
should be a problem.

Regards,
Rob


> -----Original Message-----
> From: mohamed.boucad...@orange.com
> <mohamed.boucad...@orange.com>
> Sent: 29 April 2022 07:34
> To: Rob Wilton (rwilton) <rwil...@cisco.com>; adr...@olddog.co.uk
> Cc: opsawg@ietf.org
> Subject: RE: OFFLIST TR: New Version Notification for draft-ietf-opsawg-
> l2nm-13.txt
> 
> Hi Rob, Adrian,
> 
> As you may note in -14, the following reference:
> 
>    [IEEE802.1Qcp-2018]
>               IEEE, "IEEE Standard for Local and metropolitan area
>               networks--Bridges and Bridged Networks--Amendment 30: YANG
>               Data Model", September 2018,
>               <https://ieeexplore.ieee.org/document/8467507>.
> 
> is listed as informative. The rationale was to align with what i2rs did (they
> discussed this specific point in the context of RFC 8944).
> 
> Please advise if you think that we should change that. Thanks.
> 
> Cheers,
> Med
> 
> > -----Message d'origine-----
> > De : BOUCADAIR Mohamed INNOV/NET
> > Envoyé : jeudi 28 avril 2022 16:53
> > À : 'Rob Wilton (rwilton)' <rwil...@cisco.com>
> > Cc : opsawg@ietf.org
> > Objet : RE: OFFLIST TR: New Version Notification for draft-ietf-
> > opsawg-l2nm-13.txt
> >
> > Re-,
> >
> > Please see inline.
> >
> > Cheers,
> > Med
> >
> > > -----Message d'origine-----
> > > De : Rob Wilton (rwilton) <rwil...@cisco.com> Envoyé : jeudi 28
> > avril
> > > 2022 16:23 À : BOUCADAIR Mohamed INNOV/NET
> > > <mohamed.boucad...@orange.com> Cc : opsawg@ietf.org Objet : RE:
> > > OFFLIST TR: New Version Notification for draft-ietf-
> > > opsawg-l2nm-13.txt
> > >
> > > Hi Med,
> > >
> > > Just one further tweak under QinQ:
> > >
> > >                              leaf translate {
> > >                                type empty;
> > >                                description
> > >                                  "Translate one or two outer
> > tags.
> > > PCP
> > >                                    bits are preserved.";
> > >                              }
> > >
> > > Do you need to change this to:
> > >
> > >                              leaf translate {
> > >                                type uint8 {
> > >                                  range "1|2";
> > >                                }
> > >                                description
> > >                                  "Translate one or two outer
> > tags.
> > > PCP
> > >                                    bits are preserved.";
> > >                              }
> > >
> > > To indicate whether it is one or two outer tags that are being
> > > translated?
> > >
> >
> > [Med] The presence of tag-1/type and/are tag-2/type is redundant
> > with indicating it in the range. No?
> >
> > > E.g., trans-1-2 would be translate 1 with both tag-1/tag-1-type
> > and
> > > tag-2/tag-2-type pushed tags.  Trans-2-2 would be translate 2
> > > + tag-1/tag-1-type and tag-2/tag-2-type.  Trans-2-1 would be
> > > translate 2 + tag-1/tag-1-type.
> > >
> > > Perhaps in the descriptions for tag-1/tag-2 indicate that tag-1-
> > type
> > > etc must be specified (or maybe add must statements to enforce
> > this)?
> > > Alternatively could add defaults so that tag-1- type defaults to
> > > S-VLAN and tag-2-type defaults to C-VLAN?
> > >
> >
> > [Med] I like using defaults. Thanks.
> >
> > > Otherwise, I think that all other changes look good.
> > >
> > > Regards,
> > > Rob
> > >
> > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: mohamed.boucad...@orange.com
> > > > <mohamed.boucad...@orange.com>
> > > > Sent: 28 April 2022 13:41
> > > > To: Rob Wilton (rwilton) <rwil...@cisco.com>
> > > > Cc: opsawg@ietf.org
> > > > Subject: RE: OFFLIST TR: New Version Notification for
> > > > draft-ietf-opsawg- l2nm-13.txt
> > > >
> > > > Re-,
> > > >
> > > > All good comments. Many thanks.
> > > >
> > > > The new version -14 tries to address these comments, in
> > > particular:
> > > > * use ieee802-dot1q-types
> > > > * add explicit nodes to indicate the tag types of the
> > > manipulated
> > > > tagged
> > > > * add the various clarification
> > > >
> > > > The changes can be tracked at:
> > > > https://www.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url2=draft-ietf-
> > > > opsawg-l2nm-14
> > > >
> > > > Please let me know if any further change is needed.
> > > >
> > > > Cheers,
> > > > Med
> > > >
> > > > > -----Message d'origine-----
> > > > > De : Rob Wilton (rwilton) <rwil...@cisco.com> Envoyé :
> > > mercredi 27
> > > > > avril 2022 16:03 À : BOUCADAIR Mohamed INNOV/NET
> > > > <mohamed.boucad...@orange.com>
> > > > > Cc : opsawg@ietf.org
> > > > > Objet : RE: OFFLIST TR: New Version Notification for draft-
> > > ietf-
> > > > > opsawg-l2nm-13.txt
> > > > >
> > > > > Hi Med,
> > > > >
> > > > > I've replied back separately on the 2b comments.
> > > > >
> > > > > I've also includes some further comments on the VLAN tag
> > > > > manipulations here:
> > > > >
> > > > > - The description for leaf push (for both dot1q and qinq)
> > > might be
> > > > > better as "push one or two tags defined by the tag-1 and
> > tag-2
> > > > > leaves".
> > > > > - For tag-1 and tag-2 it might be helpful to be explicit
> > which
> > > of
> > > > > those tags is outermost when written in the Ethernet/802.1Q
> > > frame
> > > > > header.
> > > > > - For the vlan ids, should they be restricted to 1..4094 (or
> > > you
> > > > > could reuse the vlanid type from here
> > > > >
> > >
> > https://github.com/YangModels/yang/blob/main/standard/ieee/publish
> > > > > ed/802.1/ieee802-dot1q-types.yang).
> > > > > - The model doesn’t indicate whether the outer/inner tags
> > that
> > > are
> > > > > pushed are C-VLAN or S-VLAN tags.  In the case where two
> > tags
> > > are
> > > > > pushed I would assume that it would be an outer S-VLAN
> > > followed by a
> > > > > inner C-VLAN, but it is somewhat ambiguous is only a single
> > > tag is
> > > > > being pushed.  I think that it would be helpful for the
> > model
> > > to
> > > > > specify the behaviour here.
> > > > > - Should the model say anything about the PCP bits if a tag
> > is
> > > > > pushed (i.e., are then just left as 0 unless explicitly set
> > by
> > > a QoS
> > > > > policy).  Also what is the behaviour on a translate, are the
> > > PCP
> > > > > bits in the header preserved?
> > > > > - For QinQ, is only a single outer tag allowed to be
> > > translated, if
> > > > > so the description should be "translate the outer tag",
> > > > > alternatively, the type could be changed to uint16 to allow
> > > the
> > > > > number of tags to be translated to be specified.
> > > > >
> > > > > I've also checked the diffs between -12 and -13 and then
> > look
> > > good
> > > > > to me, except that I had one further comment on the CoS:
> > > > >
> > > > >                           case other {
> > > > >                                    description
> > > > >                                      "Other bandwidth
> > types.";
> > > > >                                    uses bandwidth-parameters;
> > > > >                                  }
> > > > >
> > > > > Is it possible to have a more descriptive name/description
> > > instead
> > > > > of "other"? E.g., cos-unaware?  Even if you keep the
> > existing
> > > name,
> > > > > expanding the description slightly might be helpful.
> > > > >
> > > > > Thanks,
> > > > > Rob
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > > From: mohamed.boucad...@orange.com
> > > <mohamed.boucad...@orange.com>
> > > > > > Sent: 14 April 2022 12:09
> > > > > > To: Rob Wilton (rwilton) <rwil...@cisco.com>
> > > > > > Subject: OFFLIST TR: New Version Notification for
> > > > > > draft-ietf-opsawg-l2nm- 13.txt
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Hi Rob,
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Please let me know if any further changes is needed. Thank
> > > you
> > > > > again
> > > > > > for the review.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Cheers,
> > > > > > Med
> > > > > >
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