Hi Dhruv,
Your comments have been taken into account in the last version: 
https://www.ietf.org/rfcdiff?url2=draft-ietf-opsawg-service-assurance-architecture-07

Thanks again
Jean

From: OPSAWG [mailto:opsawg-boun...@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Dhruv Dhody
Sent: Tuesday 28 June 2022 14:52
To: Benoit Claise <benoit.cla...@huawei.com>
Cc: Tianran Zhou <zhoutianran=40huawei....@dmarc.ietf.org>; opsawg@ietf.org
Subject: Re: [OPSAWG] WGLC for 
draft-ietf-opsawg-service-assurance-architecture-03

Thanks Benoit for the clarifications.

I would urge the authors to add some clarification text around these as they 
see fit. Thanks again for taking my comments into consideration.

Regards,
Dhruv

On Tue, Jun 28, 2022 at 6:51 PM Benoit Claise 
<benoit.cla...@huawei.com<mailto:benoit.cla...@huawei.com>> wrote:
Hi Dhruv,

Thanks for your review.
See inline
On 6/26/2022 4:03 PM, Dhruv Dhody wrote:
Hi WG,

I think this work is very useful. I have some comments -

Minor
- We need a reference or some discussion of what we mean by "intent" before we 
jump into SAIN in the Introduction.
We could reuse the definition from draft-irtf-nmrg-ibn-concepts-definitions



      Intent: A set of operational goals (that a network should meet)

      and outcomes (that a network is supposed to deliver), defined in a

      declarative manner without specifying how to achieve or implement

      them.


- The statement "Such approaches are mainly suited for greenfield deployments" 
about intent is not clear to me. Is the intent-based approach (or SAIN) limited 
to new deployments? Maybe it is worth expanding on or providing a reference.
We were trying to express that the brown field environments are move complex 
from a intent point of view (multi-vendors, different capabilities, different 
domains, silo organizations, etc.). I understand your confusion regarding this 
paragraph.
We'll try to improve this paragraph. If still unclear, we propose to remove it.

- It is not clear to me the various difference between the Expression graph, 
assurance graph, and computational graph. If the expression graph/computation 
is all about how the health score is to be calculated, why is that not in the 
YANG (which only talks of assurance graph)? Also, I don't understand the 
difference between subservice and service expressions! If the subservice has 
dependencies, does it become the same as the service expressions? The model 
YANG only has subservices BTW!
Building the computational graph is an implementation choice. When discussing 
implementation, we thought this would be useful, even if it's out of scope of 
the draft.

- Does SAIN orchestrator has any say in what metric to collect and how it 
impacts the health score? I understand in most cases it is to be analyzed from 
the configuration but at the same time can that not be influenced by the 
orchestrator?
The subservice is an abstraction that should take care of the metric. Hence 
this is not the SAIN orchestrator job.
However, the composition of the subservice health scores could be part of the 
SAIN orchestrator. However, this is an implementation choice.

- Some examples of how the health score might be calculated as an integer 
between 0-100 would be nice in the example provided esp for a case where it is 
something in middle like "60".
An interface down is 0
An interface losing packets is ... 50 or 40 or 60? basically, it depends on the 
service impact.
So it's difficult to us to provide some guidance in this draft.


Nits
- Section 1, the closing parenthesis is missing -> (Section 3.3 of [RFC8969]
- Expand on first use - L3VPN, dBM,
- Add reference for kubernetes, Openconfig

Thanks, Benoit


Thanks!
Dhruv

On Wed, Jun 8, 2022 at 3:29 PM Tianran Zhou 
<zhoutianran=40huawei....@dmarc.ietf.org<mailto:40huawei....@dmarc.ietf.org>> 
wrote:
Hi WG,

This mail we start a two weeks working group last call for 
draft-ietf-opsawg-service-assurance-architecture-03.
https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-opsawg-service-assurance-architecture/
Please send over your comments before June 22.
Please also indicate if you think this document is ready to progress.

Cheers,
Tianran, on behalf of chairs
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