I agree... cold can be the same, but recovery is different.
 
RF
 

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Robert, 

Let me disagree with you. 
Cold *backup* is the same in archivelog mode and in noarchivelog mode. 
The *recovery* is (could be) different. 

Consider the following. I make a cold backup of a production DB, and restore
into another server to build a test DB. What is wrong with this approach?

Alex. 


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NOARCHIVELO 


I agree with your definitions....but the cold backup in archivelog mode is 
fundamentally different from one done in noarchivelog more (with respect to 
online redo logs and control files) if you are in archivelog mode and want 
to be able to do point in time recovery. 

Robert G. Freeman - Oracle8i OCP 
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NOARCHIVELOG mo 


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> but isn't cold backup is possible only if ur running in noarchieve mode 
else 
> you have to go for hot backup. 
> BigP 



OK let's get the definitions down first.  AFAIK: 

cold backup := database shut down and an OS copy of all the necessary files.


hot backup := place TS in backup mode, the do an OS copy of the files 
for that TS. 


first can be done to any database, second only to databases in 
archivelog mode. 


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