Title: RE: the ora certified masters cert, yet again

Right now, I think Susan has me from 1-2, right after
lunch, but I'm not sure. The OOUG web site is a
little sparse on details.



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Matt Adams - GE Appliances - [EMAIL PROTECTED]
We have enough youth.
How about a fountain of intelligence?

-----Original Message-----
From: Rachel Carmichael [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, June 26, 2002 4:50 PM
To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
Subject: RE: the ora certified masters cert, yet again


But Maaaaaaaaaaaaaaaatt... you were always scheduled at either the same
time *I* was presenting (trust me, I'd rather have gone to yours, I get
stage fright) or when at LEAST 2 other presentations I wanted to see
equally as much were there.

Um, what time are you presenting at OOUG? My flight home is at 5, I
have to leave around 2:30 or so....



--- "Adams, Matthew (GEA, MABG, 088130)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
> But Rachel, you never came to any of my
> presentations!!!!!  (in my best whiney voice)
>
> At least you'll get to see me present in July at OOUG.
>
> ----
> Matt Adams - GE Appliances - [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> We have enough youth.
> How about a fountain of intelligence?
>
> -----Original Message-----
> Sent: Wednesday, June 26, 2002 3:56 PM
> To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
>
>
> that's 'cause you present well and have knowledge
>
> or.. to quote one of my favorite shows:
>
> "he has much knowledge. we must build an altar and worship him"
>
>
> :)
>
>
> --- "Adams, Matthew (GEA, MABG, 088130)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
> > Actually, I had to miss this years (even though I was orginally
> > schedule
> > to give two presentations)  due to a medical situation.  I gave
> four
> > the
> > year
> > before that. 
> > 
> >
> > ----
> > Matt Adams - GE Appliances - [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > We have enough youth.
> > How about a fountain of intelligence?
> >
> > 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > Sent: Wednesday, June 26, 2002 1:09 PM
> > To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
> >
> >
> >
> > OK.  As the DBA Focus Area Manager for the IOUG, we do our best to
> > weed out
> > the fluff.  If you were at IOUG this year, you should have noticed
> a
> > significant reduction in the marketing fluff and more technical
> > content.
> > Yes, some showmanship is necessary when giving a presentation, but
> > the
> > content has to be there.
> >
> > 
> >
> > Many people on this forum have submitted presentations to my track
> > and then
> > complained that they were not accepted.  Let me give you some
> > concrete
> > numbers.  This year, we received over 400 abstracts for the DBA
> track
> > alone
> > and accepted only 80.  If one slips through the cracks, it won't a
> > second
> > time.  Believe me when I say that 2002 was the best
> content-organized
> > IOUG.
> >
> >
> > 
> >
> > Further comments?  Submit an abstract for 2003 and find out!!!
> >
> > 
> >
> > Thank You
> >
> > 
> >
> > Stephen P. Karniotis
> >
> > Product Architect
> >
> > Compuware Corporation
> >
> > Direct:                   (248) 865-4350
> >
> > Mobile:                  (248) 408-2918
> >
> > Email:                      [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >
> > Web:                        www.compuware.com
> >
> > 
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > Sent: Wednesday, June 26, 2002 12:39 PM
> > To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
> >
> > 
> >
> > unfortunately, I've seen this to be true at
> > many conferences, including the IOUG
> > and SEOUC.
> >
> > ----
> > Matt Adams - GE Appliances - [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > "Doing linear scans over an associative array is like
> > trying to club someone to death with a loaded Uzi."
> >     - Larry Wall (creator of Perl)
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> ]
> > Sent: Wednesday, June 26, 2002 11:54 AM
> > To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
> >
> > 
> >
> > I'll bet a dynamic animated speaker chockful of amusing anecdotes
> > whose
> > presentation is technically weak scores better than a plodding
> > monotonous
> > one with better information to convey :)  Especialy if the audience
> > is
> > composed of nascent DBA's :)
> >
> > Ian MacGregor
> > Stanford Linear Accelerator Center
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > Sent: Tuesday, June 25, 2002 5:09 PM
> > To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
> >
> > 
> >
> > one being a marketing venue, the other being a place where you can
> > learn from ohers experiences.
> >
> > and to clarify further, if you are a lousy presenter, giving bad
> > information, you get horrible scores and, since the selection
> process
> >
> > is not blind, don't get asked back to present again.
> >
> > So having a list of many presentations, at various conferences, can
> > be
> > an indicator of knowledge.
> >
> > 
> >
> > --- "Karniotis, Stephen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > Let me clarify something.  It was at Oracle Open World, not
> IOUG-A
> > > Live
> > > where these presentations were made.  Please do not confuse the
> > two!!
> > >
> > > Thank You
> > >
> > > Stephen P. Karniotis
> > > Product Architect
> > > Compuware Corporation
> > > Direct:       (248) 865-4350
> > > Mobile:       (248) 408-2918
> > > Email:        [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > Web:  www.compuware.com
> > >
> > >  -----Original Message-----
> > > Sent: Tuesday, June 25, 2002 5:41 PM
> > > To:   Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
> > > Subject:      RE: the ora certified masters cert, yet again
> > >
> > > A tip o' the hat to all authors and presenters.  However writing
> a
> > > book
> > > makes no one an expert on anything.  There are Oracle books
> > > containing
> > > fabulous stories of what happens when a tablespace is put in
> backup
> >
> > > mode,
> > > and while quite entertaining they do not further a correct
> > > understanding of
> > > Oracle.  Authors take the time to put what they believe to be
> true
> > on
> > > paper.
> > > It's often what they have been told, not what they have learned
> on
> > > their
> > > own.  Richard Niemiec's sp? tuning books have been trashed
> recently
> >
> > > because
> > > they tout buffer hit ratios; however there was a consensus in the
>
>
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