Title: RE: Perl - Was unix time conversion function

Are you sure? It's written in C and is supposed to be relatively portable. I've not tried it on other platforms but, in addition to HP-UX and AIX, Python runs on: AS/400; Solaris; OS/2; Amiga; AROS; BeOS; PalmOS; QNX; VMS; VxWorks; Sony PlayStation; Sharp Zaurus; the MacIntosh, DOS; and all the Windows versions including WindowsCE. Then there's Jython, the Java implementation. Python comes packaged with most good O/S's. ;-) While Python doesn't have "mindshare" in the sysadmin community that's changing with the current exponential growth. Many PerlMongers have become Python converts and Pythonistas.

Here's a quote:
"While the rest of the world has been catching on to the Perl scripting language, the Linux community, long since past the pleasing shock of Perl's power, has been catching on to a different scripting animal -- Python."

http://www.linuxworld.com/linuxworld/expo/lw-python.html
http://www.linuxjournal.com/article.php?sid=3882


To know Python is to love Python... maybe some day the sneaky-snake will sneak up on you and the teeth of the hydra will be upon ya.

:-)


Steve


-----Original Message-----
From: Gogala, Mladen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, January 28, 2003 11:45 AM
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Subject: RE: Perl - Was unix time conversion function


I haven't done anything with Python but my problem with Python or Ruby is that
they don't come with many OS variants. Perl comes with any OS and there is a
huge repository of ready made scripts. I have to confess stealing some from Jared's PDBA
collection. I cannot do that with Python and then run them on both HP-UX and AIX.
Therefore, I'll stick to the pathologically eclectic rubbish lister.
-----Original Message-----
From: Orr, Steve [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, January 28, 2003 1:00 PM
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If you can do it in Perl chances are you can do it better in Python and someone can actually read and understand it without a PHD... AKA Perl Helper Dweeb.  :-)  In Perl it takes effort to write readable code but it comes naturally in Python.


Check it out:
www.python.org/doc/essays/blurb.html
http://www.orbtech.com/web/python/why
http://www.networkcomputing.com/unixworld/tutorial/005/005.html#Others
http://www.developer.com/open/print.php/610691



Steve Orr
Oracle DBA and part-time Python Evangelist   ;-)


-----Original Message-----
From: Keith Moore [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, January 28, 2003 9:49 AM
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Subject: Re: Perl - Was unix time conversion function


I've started writing some perl and it is hard to learn, but once you learn,
it can do some great things. And if you learned it from the Larry Wall book
like I did, then it's even harder.
The thing I've discovered about perl it that it may be the only language
(computer or otherwise) that is easier to write than it is to read. I'm sure
a "perl expert" would gasp at my code, it's far too readable.
Keith
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Sent: Tuesday, January 28, 2003 10:09 AM


> please don't take umbridge, but I feel enticed to quote
>
> "what you don't know, dosn't (really) matter"
> Larry Wall, programming with perl, O'Reilly.
>
> just for a giggle.
>
> sorry
>
> apologies for any typos overlooked
>
> kr mr
> >>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] 01/28/03 12:22 PM >>>
> I've managed to successfully avoid learning Perl for a while now... my
> reaction, while not quite so dramatic as yours, was that it made my
> head hurt to try to understand it!  :)
>
>
> --- Robert Freeman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > unix time conversion functionCary.... I once thought I wanted to do
> > some
> > Perl coding... So I bought a book and started to play with it. It
> > made my
> > head bleed... literally I had little droplets of blood emerging from
> > my
> > head.... They rushed me to the hospital and put me in the Perl ward
> > where I
> > languished for days on IV's of Mountain Dew and pulverized Ritz
> > crackers..... it was close.
> >
> > In my mind there is nothing obvious about Perl, this coming from and
> > old C
> > coder who did pointers and linked lists in his sleep years ago. I
> > don't
> > know, maybe I was having a bad day and it's time to get my "learning
> > Perl"
> > book out again....
> >
> > Anyone else feel that way about Perl or am I a lone wolf in a Perl
> > world?
> >
> > RF

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