Jacques - We have used SHUTDOWN IMMEDIATE for over 5 years now for cold
backups, with zero problems. Weekend before last we had 3 production
databases that didn't go down for backup (all of our databases scheduled for
cold backups). When I checked the following morning they were just hanging.
The problem hasn't occurred since. Naturally I'll be checking this weekend
:-) We are running RMAN, just haven't gotten authorization to turn off cold
backups.
   If you are doing it interactively, you can check the processes in Unix
with ps to see if one of the Oracle processes is doing a lot of work. I've
seen it take 20 minutes to clean everything up and shut down. When a problem
has occurred, that can be a LONG 20 minutes. That is part of the DBA skill
set -- how to divert the attention of the people standing around your desk
while you wait :-)



Dennis Williams 
DBA, 40%OCP, 100% DBA 
Lifetouch, Inc. 
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> From: Pardee, Roy E [ mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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> I would 
> have guessed 
> that optimally, you'd try immediate first & then abort if 
> immediate takes 
> too long. 

I've read that some people on the list have done this. I am curious as to
how this is implemented. 
How long is too long? And how is this coded? I'm trying to think how you
would write this with shell scripts for example.

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