Oh, I wan't advocating a kill -9, just comparing it to a shutdown abort. AFAICT (as far as I can tell) there isn't a great deal of difference. I did, once on Oracle 7.3, have to shutdown the db with a shutdown abort and then just could never get it to open again. Could not recover it and eventually had to go to backups to get it back. I was very fortunate that it was a dev instance.
Allan -----Original Message----- Sent: Wednesday, April 02, 2003 10:54 PM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L I think I would still prefer a shutdown abort over a kill -9. There might be even a slight level of control and error management in a shutdown abort but not in a kill -9 nothing and I repeat nothing can avoid a kill -9 and there is no cleanup by the process that is killed. 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"Nelson, Allan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent by: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 03/04/2003 09:14 AM Please respond to ORACLE-L To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> cc: Subject: RE: dbshut script - shutdown or shutdown immediate Suppose you have a database with a sid of mydb running on unix. Shutdown abort is like doing the following from the unix command line: ps -ef | grep mydb | grep -v grep | xargs kill -9. All the processes that make up the instance or processes that are connected to that instance are killed. The database will require instance recovery on the next start. Allan -----Original Message----- Sent: Wednesday, April 02, 2003 4:29 PM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Well... my official oracle instructor in dba larva school said that it's tantamount to crashing the db--or so I recall anyway. This isn't so? Peace, -Roy Roy Pardee Programmer/Analyst SWFPAC Lockheed Martin IT Extension 8487 -----Original Message----- Sent: Wednesday, April 02, 2003 2:09 PM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L On Wed, 2 Apr 2003, Chris Berry wrote: > Shutdown abort is pretty drastic, are you sure shutdown immediate > didn't work? What is drastic about shutdown abort? 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