Hee hee hee! Then make the most of that erudite reply - you only have one year to indulge it!
ps - just bought the CDs.... > -----Original Message----- > From: Mladen Gogala [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Tuesday, September 23, 2003 1:15 PM > To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L > Subject: Re: Offshore protests > > > My age is the answer to the question of life, universe and everything. > Unfortunately, I'm no longer in my twenties. > > On 2003.09.23 05:13, "Robson, Peter" wrote: > > "Dale Carnegie" ? ! My - that dates you! (Unless it has > recently been > > reprinted - after 50 years!) > > > > peter > > edinburgh > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: Mladen Gogala [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > Sent: Monday, September 22, 2003 5:55 PM > > > To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L > > > Subject: RE: Offshore protests > > > > > > > > > No problem with beating people up. Violence is, contrary to > > > Chris Lawson's > > > book, > > > an integral part of DBA job. BTW, Chris Lawsons' "Art and > > > Science of Tuning > > > Oracle" > > > reads like Dale Carnegie for database administrators. > > > Basically, we should > > > give up > > > our cynical attitude, become indistinguishable from the > > > HR/finance drones > > > and get > > > rid of our geekish culture. Really terrifying stuff. > > > > > > -- > > > Mladen Gogala > > > Oracle DBA > > > > > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On > > > > Behalf Of Orr, Steve > > > > Sent: Monday, September 22, 2003 12:35 PM > > > > To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L > > > > Subject: RE: Offshore protests > > > > > > > > > > > > But do we have to beat up people who refuse to join... > > > > Or "make an offer they can't refuse." ;-) > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > Sent: Monday, September 22, 2003 10:00 AM > > > > To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L > > > > > > > > > > > > Definitely steel workers. We are being left to sweat in dark > > > > and we frequently get burnt by fire. > > > > > > > > -- > > > > Mladen Gogala > > > > Oracle DBA > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > On Behalf > > > > > Of KENNETH JANUSZ > > > > > Sent: Monday, September 22, 2003 11:30 AM > > > > > To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L > > > > > Subject: Re: Offshore protests > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The labor unions would definitely be interested. > > > Teamsters, Steel > > > > > Workers, AFSME? > > > > > > > > > > Ken Janusz, CPIM > > > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > > > To: "Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L" > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > > Sent: Monday, September 22, 2003 10:09 AM > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > We could make a splash by organizing a DBA union. I'm > > > > sure that all > > > > > > heads > > > > > on > > > > > > the Capitol Hill > > > > > > would turn when both members show up with banners, > > > > demanding better > > > > > > pay > > > > > for > > > > > > starved database > > > > > > administrators. What do you think, should we > mandate 9i OCP for > > > > > > joining > > > > > the > > > > > > union? If we were > > > > > > in London, we could have a permanent beer table at the > > > > > White Heart pub > > > > > > (or is it the Sphere?). We might even encounter Harry > > > Purvis and > > > > > > exchange the union stories. > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > > Mladen Gogala > > > > > > Oracle DBA > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > > > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf > > > > > > > Of DENNIS WILLIAMS > > > > > > > Sent: Monday, September 22, 2003 10:45 AM > > > > > > > To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L > > > > > > > Subject: Offshore protests > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Looks as if tech workers are learning the basics of > > > protesting. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > http://informationweek.com/story/showArticle.j> > > > html?articleID=15000146 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dennis Williams > > > > > > > DBA, 80%OCP, 100% DBA > > > > > > > Lifetouch, Inc. > > > > > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > > -- > > > > > > > Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: > http://www.orafaq.net > > > > > > > -- > > > > > > > Author: DENNIS WILLIAMS > > > > > > > INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Fat City Network Services -- 858-538-5051 > > > > > http://www.fatcity.com > > > > > > > San Diego, California -- Mailing list and web > > > > > hosting services > > > > -- > > > > Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.net > > > > -- > > > > Author: Orr, Steve > > > > INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > > > Fat City Network Services -- 858-538-5051 > http://www.fatcity.com > > > > San Diego, California -- Mailing list and web > > > hosting services > > > > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an > E-Mail message > > > > to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') > > > > and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB > > > > ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed > > > > from). 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