HUMM, That gives me an even worse feeling. Not something I'll use that's for sure.
Dick Goulet Senior Oracle DBA Oracle Certified 8i DBA -----Original Message----- Sent: Friday, December 19, 2003 9:45 AM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L no ASMs are considerably different. Its supposed to manage everything. You dont give it a file, you give it entire disks and oracle does everything. Sets up files, manages, I/O, everything. you only look at the tablespace level. you dont even install any software on it. If your on SAN, you dont install SAN software on it. > > From: "Goulet, Dick" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Date: 2003/12/19 Fri AM 09:14:27 EST > To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: RE: 10g new features question for beta testers > > That is not exactly a new feature. Oracle 9i has Oracle Managed Files where you > give it a directory and then just build tablespaces. The database picks the > filenames for you. Now mind you it does work, but I'll be damned if I use it in > anything other than a development environment. For some reason Oracle has never > gotten over that DUMB SAME (Stripe And Mirror Everything) idea. The concept is > great in theory, but in practice it's absolutely abysmal at best. > > Dick Goulet > Senior Oracle DBA > Oracle Certified 8i DBA > > -----Original Message----- > Sent: Friday, December 19, 2003 8:24 AM > To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L > > > I saw a presentation from Oracle on 10g new features last night in Reston,VA. I know > atleast one other person from the list was there. Since Oracle is releasing details > and its going to be released(in theory) in the next 2 weeks, I was wondering if you > guys could talk about it. > > 1. does ASMs work as well as Oracle claims? I always wonder about first generation > features... takes most software vendors a couple of generations to get it > right(takes any project Im on just as long). This is a radical departure. > > for those of you who dont know. Oracle claims that they will manage your disks for > you. All you do is give Oracle some Raw Disks and Oracle will set up, and handle all > your datafiles. All you do is look at logical tablespaces. It will also handle I/O > balancing. > > How well does this work? Anyone test it with a SAN? > > > 2. RAC Load Balancing. Oracle claims that you only need Oracle software from now on. > They also claim that you can load balance multiple applications. Lets say you have > One application that runs batch loads over night and a transactional application > during the day.... oracle will automatically steal resources from the other when its > not busy... > > anyone test this? > > > 3. Flashback database. Kyte was the presenter and he said that you can keep massive > undo areas, so that if you have a failure or delete data you shouldnt have you can > have oracle automatically write the DML necessary to bring it back to any point in > time. Kyte said that regular EIDE hard drives that you put in home PCs are plenty > fast enough for most systems. He recommends getting 4 300 GB drives(1.2 TBs) for > about $1400 to do this and to make tape backups off of this since they are really > slow. > > Can any beta testers comment? > > Im pleased with the rename tablespace feature... that way I dont have to update TS$ > anymore... I wonder if it was our complaining that got them to add it :) > > -- > Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.net > -- > Author: <[EMAIL PROTECTED] > INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Fat City Network Services -- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com > San Diego, California -- Mailing list and web hosting services > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message > to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in > the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L > (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). 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