Hi, I sat in a presentation up here in Wisconsin. I got the distinct feeling that most of the new "features" aren't optional. Either you use them or you don't use 10g.
I can't remember if ASM was one of those mandatory features. -- Joe Frohne Rawson Oaks Consulting, Remote Oracle Admins http://www.rawsonoaks.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] or [EMAIL PROTECTED] Oak Creek, WI, USA > HUMM, That gives me an even worse feeling. Not something I'll use > that's for sure. > > Dick Goulet > Senior Oracle DBA > Oracle Certified 8i DBA > > -----Original Message----- > Sent: Friday, December 19, 2003 9:45 AM > To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L > > > no ASMs are considerably different. Its supposed to manage > everything. You dont give it a file, you give it entire disks and > oracle does everything. Sets up files, manages, I/O, everything. > > you only look at the tablespace level. you dont even install any > software on it. If your on SAN, you dont install SAN software on it. >> >> From: "Goulet, Dick" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> Date: 2003/12/19 Fri AM 09:14:27 EST >> To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> Subject: RE: 10g new features question for beta testers >> >> That is not exactly a new feature. Oracle 9i has Oracle Managed >> Files where you give it a directory and then just build >> tablespaces. The database picks the filenames for you. Now mind >> you it does work, but I'll be damned if I use it in anything other >> than a development environment. For some reason Oracle has never >> gotten over that DUMB SAME (Stripe And Mirror Everything) idea. >> The concept is great in theory, but in practice it's absolutely >> abysmal at best. >> >> Dick Goulet >> Senior Oracle DBA >> Oracle Certified 8i DBA >> >> -----Original Message----- >> Sent: Friday, December 19, 2003 8:24 AM >> To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L >> >> >> I saw a presentation from Oracle on 10g new features last night in >> Reston,VA. I know atleast one other person from the list was >> there. Since Oracle is releasing details and its going to be >> released(in theory) in the next 2 weeks, I was wondering if you >> guys could talk about it. >> >> 1. does ASMs work as well as Oracle claims? I always wonder about >> first generation features... takes most software vendors a couple >> of generations to get it right(takes any project Im on just as >> long). This is a radical departure. >> >> for those of you who dont know. Oracle claims that they will >> manage your disks for you. All you do is give Oracle some Raw >> Disks and Oracle will set up, and handle all your datafiles. All >> you do is look at logical tablespaces. It will also handle I/O >> balancing. >> >> How well does this work? Anyone test it with a SAN? >> >> >> 2. RAC Load Balancing. Oracle claims that you only need Oracle >> software from now on. They also claim that you can load balance >> multiple applications. Lets say you have One application that runs >> batch loads over night and a transactional application during the >> day.... oracle will automatically steal resources from the other >> when its not busy... >> >> anyone test this? >> >> >> 3. Flashback database. Kyte was the presenter and he said that you >> can keep massive undo areas, so that if you have a failure or >> delete data you shouldnt have you can have oracle automatically >> write the DML necessary to bring it back to any point in time. >> Kyte said that regular EIDE hard drives that you put in home PCs >> are plenty fast enough for most systems. He recommends getting 4 >> 300 GB drives(1.2 TBs) for about $1400 to do this and to make tape >> backups off of this since they are really slow. >> >> Can any beta testers comment? >> >> Im pleased with the rename tablespace feature... that way I dont >> have to update TS$ anymore... I wonder if it was our complaining >> that got them to add it :) >> >> -- >> Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.net >> -- >> Author: <[EMAIL PROTECTED] >> INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> >> Fat City Network Services -- 858-538-5051 >> http://www.fatcity.com >> San Diego, California -- Mailing list and web hosting >> services >> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >> To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message >> to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and >> in >> the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L >> (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). 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