Thanks for the explanation.

How do the two (netbeans, Forte) compare.

I have done 90% of my career development in VAJ.  Know that IDE.  I am finding
that for web application development, especially EJB, unless one is working
with the Web Sphere / EJB additions, that VAJ is quite limiting.  I'll qualify
by saying that those extensions make developing in Web Sphere/VAJ a super joy
if one is thinking of Web Sphere deployment.  (The IBM/VAJ concept of a EJB
Access Bean takes care of the huge gap in the CMP model between EJB's and the
DB concept of association, but that is another thread.)  However, outside of Web
Sphere and maybe the older versions of Web Logic, using VAJ with other EJB
containers, Orion, Jboss, Dynamo, is either very limited or impossible.  At
this point I have dropped back to the old editor/makefile/external debugger
method of development using emacs/ant/and one of a number of external
debuggers, none of which are that much better then System.out.println().

I would love to see others comment.

Peace
john

On 16-Nov-00 Christian Sell wrote:
> netbeans WAS netbeans, BECAME forte, and was named back to netbeans before
> being made open source. www.netbeans.org
> 
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>> Rob,
>>
>> Is not netbeans now Forte (Sun bought netbeans and the old Forte
> development
>> environment and combined them in its Forte Community Edition, I think)?
>>
>> If not send me the netbeans URL please.
>>
>> Thanks
>> john
>>
>> On 16-Nov-00 Rob Lapensee wrote:
>> > John,
>> >
>> > I have successfully got netbeans to set a break point and stop a running
> ejb
>> > in progress under orion, and then go on to single step and show variable
>> > contents.
>> >
>> > It working by using something called JPDA (download from somewhere in
>> > www.javasoft.com)
>> > You will need JPDA installed and netbeans will need to be started with
>> > access to the JPDA .dll's (or shared libraries if you are not on NT).
>> > Netbeans will also require access to the JPDA jar (or jars?).
>> >
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Andante Systems
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