> containers, Orion, Jboss, Dynamo, is either very limited or impossible.
At
> this point I have dropped back to the old editor/makefile/external
debugger
> method of development using emacs/ant/and one of a number of external
> debuggers, none of which are that much better then System.out.println().
Are you referring to JPDA-enabled debuggers when you mention "external
debuggers"? I think JPDA-debugging (connecting via sockets) is great. It
saves me from having to import or install the application into my IDE, and I
dont see any convenience missing. Netbeans works great with this
