I agree fully.  This is good for Orion, for Oracle, and us as
developers.

The indication that I've been getting at JavaOne is that this deal is
similar to the JBuilder deal -- Oracle licenses the source code, and
goes off and forks it, adding their own value-add features.  Orion is
free to keep on doing what they do best, albeit with a (hopefully very
large) deposit to their bank account.

At some point in the future, Oracle may license Orion again (just like
Oracle recently licensed the latest JBuilder for their next release of
JDeveloper), but they don't have to.

The bottom line is that rather than recommending JRun on the low-end for
clients, and BEA on the high-end, I'll be able to recommend Orion *or*
Oracle, and know that I'm getting a high-quality product either way.

Oracle's licensing is a huge validation for Orion, not just for
technical reasons (I think everyone on the list knows it's a good
product), but also in terms of mindshare and comfort level of those who
sign the cheques.


Code and be happy.


Darren.

PS IronFlare has hired another developer, and Magnus has some good things
coming in terms of management tools and J2EE 1.3 integration.  Now is when
things really start to get interesting...



On Thu, Jun 07, 2001 at 02:41:51PM -0700, Robert S. Sfeir wrote:
> Why can't everyone just enjoy and bask in the moment?  It seems that every 
> time something happens on this list, we all have to start whyning!  If 
> things suck later, just change to different app server if you're unhappy 
> with the results.  This just means that:
> 1- Orion kicks butt
> 2- Oracle's App Server was shameful and they saw the power of Orion
> 3- IronFlare has more money to work with, and perhaps add more support 
> folks or more designer to go faster and better.
> 
> It's not like we never have, and never will have another choice for an app 
> server.  This move justifies my pitch to clients now, and soon I many not 
> even tell them Orion, I will say the Oracle App Server if the client is a 
> bit gun-shy on using something other than Weblogic.
> 
> Just my opinion.
> R
> 
> 
> Robert S. Sfeir
> Director of Software Development
> PERCEPTICON corporation,
>       in Joint Venture With JTransit
> San Francisco, CA 94123
> pw - http://www.percepticon.com/
> jw - http://jtransit.com
> e- [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> 
> 

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