Making business using OSS is still hard for us, maybe the skills that
we have and the believe that using OSS should be cheap... (haiya)...

Im against using costs saving as a benefit because it make our OSS
industry suffers. Its may good to present to politicians but its has
negative impacts.

We can see this from our friends doing freelance and companies that
moving aways from supporting OSS as business models. They suffers
because the amount paid could not cover the increase costs during
services.

I always said. The amount that we save from licensing should be invest
back to OSS industry by paying services that will benefits to all.

RM1000 that we save, we can used that to hire OSS consultants to give
services like network consultancy, training and configuration.

This will increase our human capitals skills set and knowledge.

They want quality services but tapi mahu bayar ciput. (want to pay
small amounts)

Mungkin ayat ini kasar. Tapi peribahasa saya  "Dibayar taik dapat taik".

On Sun, Nov 8, 2009 at 9:40 AM, red1 <r...@red1.org> wrote:
>
> Yes haris, i agree, attended his last talk at MSCOSCONF here last time
> and even talked to him after his talk and gave him my webeconomy pdf
> about around the same subject of institionalising FOSS.
>
> My contention to the crowd here is still that we are too kiasu when it
> comes to selling FOSS. For example i spoke to an MSC company (name
> withheld) exhibitor at the MyGOSSCON on how he intends to sell his
> services and he said, "give free to some US vendors, they give him back
> at least 10 pax trainings".
>
> No one thinks of selling against the giant SAP, cos precisely SAP is not
> software but 90% services, unlike Microsoft which is quite canned DVDs.
>
> red1
>
> Harisfazillah Jamel wrote:
>> I post this so I can be poke by all of you to remind me, next year to
>> bring Tim for our conference. I believe this is good for our
>> developers and freelance to learn and be guide about entrepreneurship.
>>

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