haris, oops,
sent this off without reading the later part of yr mail. yes agree we shld provide services, and mechanism shld be worked out. There can be a lot of complications, quality of work, payment, sharing of revenue.... If these are not handled well, we'll all be fighting each other... I'm willing to share ideas and discuss. Perhaps Haris you can put fowd a proposal/aganda? to discuss. On Tue, Nov 17, 2009 at 6:53 PM, Boh Yap <bhy...@gmail.com> wrote: > Haris, > > Canonical had a great benefector, Mike Shuttleworth, that pumped in a > whole chunk of $, and Red Hat has its IPO. > > End of the day the car wont run without fuel, the fuel is $ > > Here is an idea, OSDC (or any other FOSS community ) should have a > community fund, provided by (MDEC?, some sponsor) and jointly managed > by them? > > Or work with sponsors, perhaps TM can sponsor rackspace, HP/IBM/Dell > can sponsor 1 or 2 servers.... BUT we gotta have a good plan, > otherwise they'll just think we want a free lunch. > > Let's work together, and put this into the MSC8 Propo...? > > On Mon, Nov 16, 2009 at 6:51 PM, Harisfazillah Jamel > <linuxmalay...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >> Last Saturday night meetup with FreeBSD / PCBSD / MyBSD. >> >> One topic that we come up. How to community can be financial depended. >> We talk about problem hosting our documentation, better hardware and >> providing services to own community. >> >> We discuss about community as business entity. >> >> Let look back to history of Red Hat. >> http://www.redhat.com/about/companyprofile/history/ >> >> Its business entity that make Red Hat Distribution booming and >> continue to be develop. >> >> Not to mention Ubuntu and Canonical. >> >> Anyway.. >> >> Community should has business arm or business that support them. We >> can provide consultant services, technical support, online helpdesk >> and many more. >> >> Think about it. How long we want to wait for funding? >> >> Its take time to change people. Let we change ourself. >> >> On Sun, Nov 8, 2009 at 10:37 AM, red1 <r...@red1.org> wrote: >>> >>> Haris, >>> Memang kasar kau - the english version is "you pay peanuts, you get >>> monkeys!" >>> >>> I like to commend your post again as spot-on. Benefit of FOSS is >>> freedom, not free lunch. >>> >>> Harisfazillah Jamel wrote: >>>> Making business using OSS is still hard for us, maybe the skills that >>>> we have and the believe that using OSS should be cheap... (haiya)... >>>> >>>> Im against using costs saving as a benefit because it make our OSS >>>> industry suffers. Its may good to present to politicians but its has >>>> negative impacts. >>>> >>>> We can see this from our friends doing freelance and companies that >>>> moving aways from supporting OSS as business models. They suffers >>>> because the amount paid could not cover the increase costs during >>>> services. >>>> >>>> I always said. The amount that we save from licensing should be invest >>>> back to OSS industry by paying services that will benefits to all. >>>> >>>> RM1000 that we save, we can used that to hire OSS consultants to give >>>> services like network consultancy, training and configuration. >>>> >>>> This will increase our human capitals skills set and knowledge. >>>> >>>> They want quality services but tapi mahu bayar ciput. (want to pay >>>> small amounts) >>>> >>>> Mungkin ayat ini kasar. Tapi peribahasa saya "Dibayar taik dapat taik". >>>> >>>> >>> >> >> >> >> > > > > -- > #------- > regds, > > Boh Heong, Yap > -- #------- regds, Boh Heong, Yap --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ Join Open Source Developers Club Malaysia http://www.osdc.my/ Facebook Fan page http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=98685301577 http://www.facebook.com/OSDC.my You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "OSDC.my Mailing List" group. To post to this group, send email to osdcmy-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to osdcmy-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/osdcmy-list?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
