Haris, Canonical had a great benefector, Mike Shuttleworth, that pumped in a whole chunk of $, and Red Hat has its IPO.
End of the day the car wont run without fuel, the fuel is $ Here is an idea, OSDC (or any other FOSS community ) should have a community fund, provided by (MDEC?, some sponsor) and jointly managed by them? Or work with sponsors, perhaps TM can sponsor rackspace, HP/IBM/Dell can sponsor 1 or 2 servers.... BUT we gotta have a good plan, otherwise they'll just think we want a free lunch. Let's work together, and put this into the MSC8 Propo...? On Mon, Nov 16, 2009 at 6:51 PM, Harisfazillah Jamel <linuxmalay...@gmail.com> wrote: > > Last Saturday night meetup with FreeBSD / PCBSD / MyBSD. > > One topic that we come up. How to community can be financial depended. > We talk about problem hosting our documentation, better hardware and > providing services to own community. > > We discuss about community as business entity. > > Let look back to history of Red Hat. > http://www.redhat.com/about/companyprofile/history/ > > Its business entity that make Red Hat Distribution booming and > continue to be develop. > > Not to mention Ubuntu and Canonical. > > Anyway.. > > Community should has business arm or business that support them. We > can provide consultant services, technical support, online helpdesk > and many more. > > Think about it. How long we want to wait for funding? > > Its take time to change people. Let we change ourself. > > On Sun, Nov 8, 2009 at 10:37 AM, red1 <r...@red1.org> wrote: >> >> Haris, >> Memang kasar kau - the english version is "you pay peanuts, you get >> monkeys!" >> >> I like to commend your post again as spot-on. Benefit of FOSS is >> freedom, not free lunch. >> >> Harisfazillah Jamel wrote: >>> Making business using OSS is still hard for us, maybe the skills that >>> we have and the believe that using OSS should be cheap... (haiya)... >>> >>> Im against using costs saving as a benefit because it make our OSS >>> industry suffers. Its may good to present to politicians but its has >>> negative impacts. >>> >>> We can see this from our friends doing freelance and companies that >>> moving aways from supporting OSS as business models. They suffers >>> because the amount paid could not cover the increase costs during >>> services. >>> >>> I always said. The amount that we save from licensing should be invest >>> back to OSS industry by paying services that will benefits to all. >>> >>> RM1000 that we save, we can used that to hire OSS consultants to give >>> services like network consultancy, training and configuration. >>> >>> This will increase our human capitals skills set and knowledge. >>> >>> They want quality services but tapi mahu bayar ciput. (want to pay >>> small amounts) >>> >>> Mungkin ayat ini kasar. Tapi peribahasa saya "Dibayar taik dapat taik". >>> >>> >> > > > > -- #------- regds, Boh Heong, Yap --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ Join Open Source Developers Club Malaysia http://www.osdc.my/ Facebook Fan page http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=98685301577 http://www.facebook.com/OSDC.my You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "OSDC.my Mailing List" group. To post to this group, send email to osdcmy-list@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to osdcmy-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/osdcmy-list?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
