Have fun! It all sounds great, especially the motorbike ride. And indeed, please keep us all posted. :-)
-----Oorspronkelijk bericht----- Van: oslist-boun...@lists.openspacetech.org [mailto:oslist-boun...@lists.openspacetech.org] Namens Thomas Herrmann Verzonden: zondag 18 augustus 2013 23:08 Aan: World wide Open Space Technology email list Onderwerp: Re: [OSList] bridging two OS conferences thanks Koos, I like that idea of having the documentation/action plans available for the second group and if anyone chooses to, they can look at it. We will have a follow up meeting after about 2 weeks where the leadership team and the sponsors of actions will meet to decide how to support the work with the action plans - that may be the right time to talk about integration of action plans, if they choose to. I will be clear about that opportunity - for the second group especially. Thanks for assisting me in my thinking - I feel more clear now Will let U know how this goes (it's Mo-Tue + Thu-Fri next week) - but first there is an OST training to facilitate and a NOSonOS to participate in - and a 600 km's motorbike ride across the mountains to the fjords in Norway - sooo much fun! Thomas 18 aug 2013 kl. 17:54 skrev Koos de Heer <k...@auryn.nl>: > Hi Thomas, > > Even if there is a group in the second conference that wants to work on a > similar topic as in the first conference, would that be a big problem? You > might connect the two groups later and they can figure out if they want to > work together or not. I think I would certainly make the work of the first > conference available for those in the second conference who are interested, > but I would not stress it too much. It would feel as closing the space - > telling the group "there is already some work being done and you have to > look at it first" feels awkward to me and not very Open. > > Let creativity flow - and sometimes it seems that it is going to flow in a > certain direction but then all of a sudden it takes a different corner an > becomes something else. So even if a topic looks the same when it is posted, > it can end up to be something different. > > Just my 2 cents. Knowing you, it will work well whatever the approach you > choose - it is spirit that guides you. > > Love > > Koos > > > -----Oorspronkelijk bericht----- > Van: oslist-boun...@lists.openspacetech.org > [mailto:oslist-boun...@lists.openspacetech.org] Namens Thomas Herrmann > Verzonden: zondag 18 augustus 2013 16:53 > Aan: World wide Open Space Technology email list > Onderwerp: Re: [OSList] bridging two OS conferences > > Thanks for all the sharing and ideas. > Where I am with our case now is that I will probably not make such a big > thing about the sharing of reports from the first occasion. It will be > posted somewhere if anyone is interested. I will also check with my sponsors > after the first 2-day OST, what they think is the best way. > In each of the 2-day conferences we will devote the last half day to action > planning, the re-opening style (create the agenda and then two short > sessions to make the action plans). Here I think there needs to be some > integration, not to start parallel groups, working on the same idea. > > The first conference will probably result in a number of action plans (what? > who? when? and each action plan having one person responsible to > coordinate/communicate etc). > > So, when we go to action planning in the second conference we will already > have some action plans from the first 2 day conference. In my thinking so > far, I have come up with two alternatives which I am not 100% happy with. > 1. Have complete documentation from the 1st OST ready, including the action > plans. So, when the agenda for action planning is set I invite people to > have a look at what their colleagues achieved and think about if you want to > integrate your action plan with one of those from the previous OST. > 2. Have the action plans from the 1st OST on a wall, present them very > brief, inviting anyone to continue working on any one of them or to bring a > different action up, a new one. > > What do you think? Any other ideas? > Cheers > Thomas (just arrived in Oslo - OST training Mo-Wed!) > > 16 aug 2013 kl. 09:23 skrev Michael M Pannwitz <mmpannw...@gmail.com>: > >> ...even though he might never have heard of OST, this is how Ricardo >> Semler does his outfit in Brazil as reported on in his books >> "Maverick" and "The Seven-Day Weekend" (I see these books in English >> and Italian and Spanish on Amazon) ...and as done by Hans-Georg Wicke >> who has extensively worked with OST for 13 years in his outfit in >> Germany, as reported in an article that has appeared in an ebook (this >> book contains the report in three languages, German, English and >> Polish...a second addition with more languages added - French, >> Spanisch, Chinese - is in the making...available here directly at the >> publisher >>> http://www.westkreuz-verlag.de/de/Jugend-fuer-Europa-E-Book >> or here at amazon >>> http://www.amazon.de/Jugend-Europa-Jahre-Praxis-ebook/dp/B00CDU67H0/r >>> ef=sr_1_2?s=digital-text&ie=UTF8&qid=1376636746&sr=1-2&keywords=Jugen >>> d+f%C3%BCr+Europa >> >> As far as documentation is concerned in OST events in sequence, I would > generally also suggest to start "clean"... but most important, I think, I > would have the sponsor/client and his Planning Group mull over this and > think up something that best fits their purpose... >> On a more broader level, I think documentation of the breakout sessions is > highly overrated... If the sponsor/client is interested in action planning > and action itself that is initiated and pushed by the conveners of action > (as described in your mail) documentation might be more important... it does > require a three day event with a really diverse group (in a hospital this > would include the patients, among others) to come up with robust, > sustainable etc. action.. >> But again, let the folks running their enterprise decide... I get the > impression I and some others in this trade, concern ourselves far too much > with matters which are the sponsor's/client's business. >> In the first order I am not an OD consultant or consultant of whatever > color (I am good at that and it gets into my way all the time) but a sort of > midman standing back, letting the forces of selforganisation do their stuff. >> >> Greetings from Berlin where I am spending increasing chunks of my days >> in minding the blackberries in our garden >> >> mmp >> >> >> On 16.08.2013 00:08, Kári Gunnarsson wrote: >>> I have also done 2 open spaces (both 3 day, one afther another), for >>> a multinational assosiation of youth organizations. We tryed to i >>> plememt some notion on building on the work from the other groups. To >>> day I would not choose to do it that way, I think that I should >>> rather put my trust in the passion of the people that are present, >>> and start clean with the purpuse of the space. Then we can put it all >>> in one document and invite people to form formal planing and action >>> groups with support from management ( like to use the meeting rooms >>> and take time from other work within limits ). One of my clients >>> likes to think about the aftherwork as projects, and then give these >>> projects funing to rent the them selfes from the departments >>> management, then it is up to the team to sell there idea and get the > funding wherever, whenever. >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Kári Gunnarsson >>> kari.gunnars...@simnet.is <mailto:kari.gunnars...@simnet.is> >>> gsm: +354 8645189 >>> >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> OSList mailing list >>> To post send emails to OSList@lists.openspacetech.org To unsubscribe >>> send an email to oslist-le...@lists.openspacetech.org >>> To subscribe or manage your subscription click below: >>> http://lists.openspacetech.org/listinfo.cgi/oslist-openspacetech.org >>> >> >> -- >> Michael M Pannwitz >> Draisweg 1, 12209 Berlin, Germany >> ++49 - 30-772 8000 >> >> >> >> Check out the Open Space World Map presently showing 412 resident Open >> Space Workers in 72 countries working in a total of 143 countries >> worldwide: www.openspaceworldmap.org >> _______________________________________________ >> OSList mailing list >> To post send emails to OSList@lists.openspacetech.org To unsubscribe >> send an email to oslist-le...@lists.openspacetech.org >> To subscribe or manage your subscription click below: >> http://lists.openspacetech.org/listinfo.cgi/oslist-openspacetech.org > > _______________________________________________ > OSList mailing list > To post send emails to OSList@lists.openspacetech.org To unsubscribe send an > email to oslist-le...@lists.openspacetech.org > To subscribe or manage your subscription click below: > http://lists.openspacetech.org/listinfo.cgi/oslist-openspacetech.org > > _______________________________________________ > OSList mailing list > To post send emails to OSList@lists.openspacetech.org > To unsubscribe send an email to oslist-le...@lists.openspacetech.org > To subscribe or manage your subscription click below: > http://lists.openspacetech.org/listinfo.cgi/oslist-openspacetech.org _______________________________________________ OSList mailing list To post send emails to OSList@lists.openspacetech.org To unsubscribe send an email to oslist-le...@lists.openspacetech.org To subscribe or manage your subscription click below: http://lists.openspacetech.org/listinfo.cgi/oslist-openspacetech.org _______________________________________________ OSList mailing list To post send emails to OSList@lists.openspacetech.org To unsubscribe send an email to oslist-le...@lists.openspacetech.org To subscribe or manage your subscription click below: http://lists.openspacetech.org/listinfo.cgi/oslist-openspacetech.org