Hi people out there,
I wouldalso recommend “Order out of Chaos,” from Prigogine and Stengers and, 
also fromthe same authors: " "The New Alliance: Metamorphosis of Science". 
(Idon't know if there is an English translation: as I only find it in 
French,Spanish and Italian...). They are both written by a Physicist and an 
Anthropologist,but are written for the lay person. 


 
And,yes, “At home in the Universe” by Kauffmann  is a must,even if more complex.


 
I have manydoubts about Gleick's book on "Chaos", as there is not even a single 
reference to Prigogine. He is not even mentioned in the entire book. Itis like 
writing about "The Evolution of the Species" withoutreferring Darwin...  


 
Regards


 
Artur


      From: Harrison Owen via OSList <oslist@lists.openspacetech.org>
 To: 'John Baxter' <j...@jsbaxter.com.au>; 'World wide Open Space Technology 
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– the literature on self organization is massive, and to be honest a number of 
years have passed since I felt myself to be marginally informed. That said, 
there are three books that I found to be most helpful, and all – to the best of 
my knowledge – are still in print. In historical order they are: “Order out of 
Chaos,” Ilya Prigogine, “Chaos,”  James Gleick, and “At home in the Universe” 
Stuart Kauffmann. I would suggest starting with “Chaos” – which is the best 
written and pulls together lots of wonderful strands.   Harrison  Winter 
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Sent: Friday, November 28, 2014 10:49 PM
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Subject: Re: [OSList] Summer research project idea: 'self organisation'  Great 
idea Daniel  Stigmergy I am familiar with (from Mark et al from Collabforge in 
Melbourne - did his PhD on stigmergy and collaboration! Public book in the 
works now), but I know there is much more there.  The main references to self 
organisation in the sciences I have come across so far, I have not been able to 
track down due to being out of print and the like...  Tracking down such refs 
and mapping the gems from them is exactly the kind of thing I imagine myself 
doing over summer.  I've now saved those links to my reference list : )  If 
anyone can recommend a good primer or iconic text in self-org systems from the 
sciences (or otherwise) I'd appreciate your recommendation.  Cheers
  John BaxterCocreation Consultant & ​Co​Create Adelaide 
Facilitatorjsbaxter.com.au | CoCreateADL.com0405 447 829​ | ​@jsbaxter_  Thank 
you to everyone who came, helped or spread the good word about City 
Grill!Summary and links: cocreateadl.com/localgov/grill-summary/    On Fri, Nov 
28, 2014 at 10:50 PM, Daniel Mezick via OSList <oslist@lists.openspacetech.org> 
wrote:There are many well-established words that are used to more precisely 
discuss self "organization" in the biological and social sciences. I wonder if 
actively using some of these well-defined words might be helpful in the 
discussion.

Example: stigmergy
https://www.google.com/search?q=define+stigmergy
Stigmergy is a mechanism of indirect coordination between agents or actions. 
The principle is that the trace left in the environment by an action stimulates 
the performance of a next action, by the same or a different agent.

More details
http://www.evolutionofcomputing.org/Multicellular/Stigmergy.html
http://www.evolutionofcomputing.org/Multicellular/StigmergyAndSelf.html
http://www.evolutionofcomputing.org/Multicellular/FourPrinciples.html
http://www.evolutionofcomputing.org/Multicellular/IntertwinedPrinciples.html

Daniel

On 11/26/14 8:25 PM, John Baxter via OSList wrote:
Hello facilitators of self organisation  Let's take a moment to consider self 
organisation, as 'field' or 'practice'.  I am scoping a summer project at the 
moment (in the southern hemisphere!).  I have been reading and learning all I 
can about self org.  There is less than I expected at the heart of self org 
practice, but much more than I realised in intersecting fields (e.g. in 
governance, democracy, community organising, management, change, systems...).  
There are also unanswered Qs about what 'self org' is (indeed, if it is 
anything at all).  It might be worthwhile formalising this, through a focused 
research project, and sharing the results in a report or the like.  Possible 
focus questions that come to mind for me are- what does someone need to know to 
say "I do self organisation"?- what would someone need to know to be an 
'expert' in self org?  Would appreciate your perspective, as a 
practitioner-facilitator-fellow wave rider:  What (if anything) do you think 
deserves to be done?Who should be involved in doing it?  ​Thank you for 
contributing to the quest!  John BaxterCocreation Consultant & ​Co​Create 
Adelaide Facilitatorjsbaxter.com.au | CoCreateADL.com0405 447 829 ​ | 
​@jsbaxter_  Thank you to everyone who came, helped or spread the good word 
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