For what it's worth, a smartphone WITH a barometer (and an altitude
correction model on board, which I think is wired into Location Services on
Android) is quite a robust altitude indicator. The GPS altitude can be
compared with the barometer, integrated over a very long time - relative to
altitude changes, but short relative to the weather. That can yield the
sea-level pressure reading that will calibrate the barometer for short-term
variability.

My phone doesn't generally do quite as well as my wrist altimeter (which
often nails a known elevation within 5 m if the weather is stable), but
many, many times better than an unassisted GPS.

On Sat, Feb 17, 2018 at 6:53 PM, Poutnik <[email protected]> wrote:

> Sure, but I was not speaking in context of aircraft, but e.g. of multi-day
> mountain trekking.  Neither I have heard about OSMAnd to be used for a
> precise aircraft altitude control.
>
> Dne 18/02/2018 v 00:39 Robert Grant napsal(a):
>
> While my experience agrees with you regarding accuracy and stability, it's
> still better to know the local pressure setting, especially if landing an
> aircraft without a radio altimeter. Setting an altimeter based on GPS
> sounds quite rare to me.
>
> On Feb 17, 2018 3:12 PM, "Poutnik" <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> As being trained in past as the military meteorologist, in pre-GPS era,
>> I am aware of that. But the offset value is bigger than GPS accuracy of the
>> static value averaged.   BTW, the most handy way how to calibrate the
>> barometric altimeter at unknown altitude is the GPS device. While
>> barometric altimeters have superior short-term accuracy and stability, GPS
>> devices have superior long-term accuracy and stability.  Fortunately, for
>> most personal usage, absolute altitudes are not that important, rather the
>> relative changes.
>>
>> Dne 17/02/2018 v 23:35 Robert Grant napsal(a):
>>
>> I'm pretty sure that none of the devices listed by the op use barometric
>> altimeters; even the Garmin Glo is GPS altimetry.  GPS is known for its
>> lack of precision in determining altitude.  In aviation, old school
>> barometric altimeters are still the gold standard, but they require
>> periodic barometric pressure adjustment.  While GPS is great for navigating
>> around the earth, it would be very foolish to use GPS altitude for landing
>> an aircraft.  Bottom line:  don't expect any phone with only GPS altitude
>> to agree precisely with a database supplied measurement.
>>
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>> On Sat, Feb 17, 2018 at 1:41 PM, Harry van der Wolf <[email protected]>
>> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>
>>> 2018-02-17 19:41 GMT+01:00 Poutnik <[email protected]>:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> While Europe subtracts altitude by the correction,
>>>> US adds altitude, so the higher value is the (over?)corrected one.
>>>>
>>>>
>>> I didn't know that :)
>>>
>>
>>
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