On Dec 17, 2008, at 4:19 AM, Stefano Mori wrote: > > On 2008-Dec-17, at 08:10, Kevin Callahan wrote: > >> http://www.treehugger.com/files/2008/11/obama-cites-michael- >> pollan.php >> >> In an interview with Joe Klein, Obama refers to the article, >> explaining how Pollan's ideas fit into the concept of a new energy >> economy. >> >> Obama's analysis of Pollan's message: >> >> There is no better potential driver that pervades all aspects of our >> economy than a new energy economy. I was just reading an article in >> the New York Times by Michael Pollen about food and the fact that >> our entire agricultural system is built on cheap oil. As a >> consequence, our agriculture sector actually is contributing more >> greenhouse gases than our transportation sector. And in the mean >> time, it's creating monocultures that are vulnerable to national >> security threats, are now vulnerable to sky-high food prices or >> crashes in food prices, huge swings in commodity prices, and are >> partly responsible for the explosion in our healthcare costs because >> they're contributing to type 2 diabetes, stroke and heart disease, >> obesity, all the things that are driving our huge explosion in >> healthcare costs. That's just one sector of the economy. You think >> about the same thing is true on transportation. The same thing is >> true on how we construct our buildings. The same is true across the >> board. > > > There is a spiritual group led by a self-professed Guru called Andrew > Cohen. > > His teaching is that enlightenment is no longer simply about getting a > high for a few seconds. To him, enlightenment has evolved since its > early discovery thousands of years ago. Today, enlightenment is about > replacing your ego and its selfish needs, with an "ecstatic compulsion > to evolve", on the level of culture and world affairs. His groups' > pitch and selling point repeats over and over the need for people to > get in touch with and become that ecstatic and selfless impulse to > evolve new culture capable to dealing with the world's problems, like > global warming, population, and so on. > > My point is, grand complex visions are easy to come by. > > My curiosity about Cohen's group is, ok, what have you guys actually > achieved so far? > > And that's what people in the audience end up asking him. > > Ask Cohen for an example of something they've achieved, and the answer > you get is, "I don't like to say". >
Watch the South Park episode called "Die Hippy Die". All is revealed.. Kind of like. "Yeah! We are really going to change the world by getting everyone together and having a rock concert. That'll really show *The Man* Once again, it's how they feel that trumps "what they do" and at the end of the day, they have accomplished nothing but deluding themselves to believe that "feeling" is the same as "doing" How unenlightened of someone to even ask them what they have accomplished? To me, there is an unhealthy narcissism combined with an odd self loathing to the whole approach. He wants us to evolve a whole new culture.. Does he think that happens by magic or wishing or without some method to provide food for the masses? Example. If you want to actually stop whatever global warming you believe in, you had better believe that it will take countless dollars produced by and invested by companies that actually do something to earn them. Governments do not actually "produce" anything. They are parasitic to those that work and invest. All the "ecstatic compulsion to evolve" in the world will not do squat to ACTUALLY fund and do the heavy lifting required to make the changes needed. It will take men risking their fortunes and their companies to make it happen. Anything else is delusional. Want to take bets that he has a poster of Che on his wall somewhere? Chuck _______________________________________________ OSX-Nutters mailing list | [email protected] http://lists.tit-wank.com/mailman/listinfo/osx-nutters List hosted at http://cat5.org/
