On Dec 31, 2008, at 6:58 PM, Stefano Mori wrote: > > On 2009-Jan-01, at 02:37, Kevin Callahan wrote: > >> Okay .. so your house has been broken into in the past .. >> now you look out your window and you see this guy walking up the >> street towards your house ... >> you don't know who he is or what he's doing .. but he's near your >> property .. or maybe he steps on your lawn... >> >> you take him out, right? >> >> Is that how the law works in England? >> >> let's say you have posted a sign on your lawn saying "No Solicitors", >> yet they walk up your driveway ... ignoring the sign -- >> can you shoot them? > > > Around the world there are a number of places marked "prohibited > airspace". > > If you fly into them, for any reason, expect a world of trouble.
Might this is the rationalization for militants sending rockets into Israel? Israel, Palestine and the Occupied Territories:Land and Settlement Issues Picture Credit: Uriel Sinai/Getty Images At the heart of the Israel/Palestine conflict lies the question of land and who rules it. The collision of Jewish nationalist colonisation and Palestian nationalism, both laying claim to the same territory, forms the basis of this long conflict, deepened by the tragedies of the Holocaust and of the dispossession and occupation of Palestine. The United Nations partition of the land in 1947, an effort to resolve the two claims simultaneously, did not result in a lasting settlement. Since the war of 1967, Palestinians have come to accept the reality of Israel within the 1948 boundaries. The land dispute has increasingly focused on Israel's occupation of the remaining territories -- the West Bank, Gaza Strip and East Jerusalem. UN Resolutions 242 and 338 stipulate that Israel must withdraw completely from these territories. Israel withdrew from the Gaza Strip on 12 September 2005, but continues to build many Jewish settlements in the other territories, actions deemed illegal by virtually all other states. The Oslo Accords (1993) and the Road Map (2003) have failed to reach a land agreement between the parties or to bring Israeli withdrawal. Since 2002, the Israeli government has been building a "security fence" that winds deep into Palestinian territory, claiming the barrier would keep Palestinian suicide bombers from striking Israeli citizens. But this separation wall is a major de facto annexation of Palestinian territories. By building the wall and increasing settlement expansion, Israel retains control over important Palestinian economic areas, agricultural grounds and natural resources like water. The International Court of Justice has ruled that Israel's West Bank barrier violates international law, but the unequal struggle over the land of Palestine continues > > > You have several in the United States. > > In India, a commercial airliner accidentally flew into one and even > though it was simply a mistake and corrected the moment it was > advised, the pilot was detained for three days for questioning. > > Korean Airlines Flight 007 was shot down by the Soviets, killing 269 > people. > > So yes, if you go where governments tell you you are not allowed, > expect them to use force. As Jared said, these activists should count > themselves lucky they were not killed. Remember, this boat didn't > wander in by accident and turn around when told to. It was actively > trying to run a military blockade. > > Stefano > > _______________________________________________ > OSX-Nutters mailing list | [email protected] > http://lists.tit-wank.com/mailman/listinfo/osx-nutters > List hosted at http://cat5.org/ http://www.kevincallahan.org/ http://www.kevincallahan.org/software/accessorizer.html http://www.xeniamara.com/ _______________________________________________ OSX-Nutters mailing list | [email protected] http://lists.tit-wank.com/mailman/listinfo/osx-nutters List hosted at http://cat5.org/
