On Jul 9, 2009, at 10:35 PM, Chris Gehlker wrote:

>
> On Jul 9, 2009, at 5:36 PM, Arno Hautala wrote:
>
>> On Thu, Jul 9, 2009 at 20:11, LuKreme<[email protected]> wrote:
>>>
>>> The reasoning is that a crime that is motivated via hate toward a
>>> minority group is a greater crime than one that is not. A hate crime
>>> is a crime against a person AND a crime against society at large.
>>
>> Isn't every crime one against society?  Someone stating that they
>> aren't going to play by the rules of society; that they're more
>> important than the concerns of others.  In addition, the victims of
>> violent crime typically spread much further than the individuals
>> against which the crime was directed.
>
> I'm with Arno here. I googled "why are hate crimes worse than regular
> crimes" and got a lot of hits but nothing that appeared to be a
> reasoned answer to the question. People who support hate crimes
> legislation don't seem to feel compelled to explain their reasoning. A
> lot of people seem to share my confusion. Unless they give the feds a
> means to prosecute criminals that would otherwise be given a pass,
> they don't seem to make sense.

That was the initial point of them.  Same with the various election  
monitoring laws.  That is how i support there use.  It's the only real  
argument that makes sense in the context of criminal behavior.


--Larry
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