On 10.07.2009, at 14:17, LuKreme wrote: > On 10-Jul-2009, at 05:57, Arno Hautala wrote: >> On Fri, Jul 10, 2009 at 07:43, LuKreme<[email protected]> wrote: >>> On 9-Jul-2009, at 18:36, Arno Hautala wrote: >>>> >>>> Isn't every crime one against society? >>> >>> To some extent, yes. But society has ALWAYS classified some crimes >>> as more serious, even if the underlying crime is the same. Rape >>> is a >>> crime, rape of a child is a much more serious crime, for example. >>> Rape of a child from a person in a position of trust is an even MORE >>> serious crime. >> >> True, but those examples focus on who the victim is (which to some >> degree does change the crime), not the motivation behind it. > > A hate crime is focusing on who the person is in relation to the > criminal EXACTLY like the "in a position of trust' classification of > child molestation.
Disagree here. I don't like the notion of hate crime in terms of using the concept to set sentencing policy etc. as such it is legally redundant, but it seems like it is useful as a description of behaviour and as such, it *is* different from child molestation by someone in a position of trust, unless you think that there is a prevalent mindset amongst groups of persons in positions of trust that advocates/justifies child molestation. _______________________________________________ OSX-Nutters mailing list | [email protected] http://lists.tit-wank.com/mailman/listinfo/osx-nutters List hosted at http://cat5.org/
