Hi Ron & others:

What are your thoughts on PTs working on standing tolerance with the
client's favorite leisure- a game of checkers, or, a homemaker working in PT
stacking dishes in overhead cupboards working on standing balance post THR
.... are they working on physical functions with an 'occupational' modality?
What about OTs using contrast-bath treatments in preparation to self care,
since it helps decrease stiffness/ pain in the clients hands before holding
on to their toothbrush? 'Physical ' modalities for occupational purposes?
Again, do or don't art/ music therapists use art/ music as an 'occupational'
modality (ofcourse, not calling it that), even if it is mainly diversional
in nature. I have heard of music therapists working with autistic, ADHD kids
that helps 'occupy' the kids in a more constructive ways rather than their
rather 'mis' or 'dis' occupation. I am not convinced that by law or, in
actual practice we have a true domain that's not been shared by others.
Again, I do not believe PTs have one either. At least, not in the US. Again,
I do not believe that this con'fusion' leading to the 'fission'  amongst the
professionals is just limited to the US. I believe the OT product is
undersold and under-recognized throughout the world, i.e, wherever it is.

Our product is like a liquid, it takes the form of the container- the
flexibility is what makes it an art to conform to the uniqueness of the
individual that goes beyond the science of pathology. The product is
holistic- aimed at health in terms of physical, mental, emotional and social
well-being. I agree it is not a product that can be defined, rather it has
several definitions based upon different settings. In fact, not too long ago
there was an article in Advance or, OT Practice ( just not sure which) and,
it depicted analogy of a few blind men describing an elephant with no one
having ever seeing one before, and each described it based on what part they
came in contact with. Each of them were right, just not complete....

Think of gasoline- it has no form of its own,  yet it makes different cars
run from concept to vintages, luxury to economy....the power behind the
drive! To me that is OT or, that could be. Human bodies are the vehicles-
life the journey! (...disregard my bad poetry) :-)

p.s: In the above analogy (bad poetry), the tires of the car is PT, as the
body of the car is borne on it and, it helps to move/ run it.  Just
kidding!!!!!

Everybody have a great labor day weekend.

Joe


----- Original Message -----
From: "Ron Carson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Joe Wells" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Friday, August 29, 2003 7:31 PM
Subject: Re[2]: [OTlist] PT does it all!!


> Hello Joe:
>
> The  OT's profession true and unique domain is that of occupation. In my
> little world, it's as simple as that.
>
> You  also  mention that we have an excellent product. I believe that our
> 'product'  is  so laterally flattened by different practice patterns and
> theories that is hard to even define our product.
>
> Ron
>
> =============================================
>
> On 8/28/2003,[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
> JW> Re: [OTlist] PT does it all!!Amanda:
>
> JW> I  agree.  We  have  an  excellent product, just have a lesser brand
> JW> name.  A few weeks ago, I had posted how a show on Discovery channel
> JW> kept   showing   OTs   and  called  everything  PT.  Although,  both
> JW> professions  developed almost side by side, it is interesting to see
> JW> the  difference  in  the public perception and acceptance that comes
> JW> from it.
>
> JW> Ron,  it  is  a  reality.  Though  not  all PTs practice what we OTs
> JW> thought  or  still  think  is  our  domain,  but  more and more are,
> JW> especially  since  it's  been published under their practice acts by
> JW> APTA.  The  PT  profession  does  aim  at  being a wholesome 'rehab/
> JW> therapy'  provider.  And,  it  is highly endorsed by APTA. Although,
> JW> AOTA  endorses a similar stance, I just don't see enough enthusiasm/
> JW> confidence  within the profession, let alone public education. Would
> JW> we  be  phased out of public image further with PT's expanded scope?
> JW> Is  it  truly an expansion of PT's scope now, or as they claim, just
> JW> given  the right words for what they have always been doing? What is
> JW> our  true unique domain then, something that only we can and only we
> JW> are allowed to do ( restricted acts)? Or, is there one? What is PT's
> JW> compared  to  ours?  These questions are hopefully being answered by
> JW> someone  at APTA and AOTA as these professions are heading towards a
> JW> very  interesting  decade  or  two  ahead of us. I expect some major
> JW> changes  not only in how the way we practice and our professions end
> JW> up  by  2020,  but  also  how  the  outside world perceives us as we
> JW> struggle in this interesting healthcare market. Joe
>
> JW> -----   Original   Message   -----   From:   Amanda  K.  Dobyns  To:
> JW> [EMAIL PROTECTED]  Sent:  Thursday,  August 28, 2003 8:00 PM Subject:
> JW> Re: [OTlist] PT does it all!!
>
> JW>   Unfortunately, the young girl who was quoted in the story probably
> JW> did  not  understand the difference between the two types of therapy
> JW> she  received  during  her  rehabilitation.  In  my limited clinical
> JW> experience,  I  have  been  called  a  PT  more times than you would
> JW> believe.  I  think  it  goes  to  show that more client education is
> JW> necessary if our profession is to be better understood.
>
> JW>   Amanda
>
> JW>   on 8/28/03 7:20 PM, Ron Carson at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
> JW>   > Hello:
>
> JW>   >  Today, at a medical supply company, I picked up the Spring 2003
> JW>   edition  >  of  a magazine called "FAAST Access". The magazine has
> JW>   something  to do > with assistive technology. On page 19 there's a
> JW>   story  line about a young > girl with a spinal cord injury and how
> JW>   her  life  was made better by a > piece of technology. Now, here's
> JW>   the really unfortunate part of the > story.
>
> JW>   > I quote:
>
> JW>   > "As soon as I was able, I started physical therapy to improve my
> JW>   >  independence with daily activities. The therapists were able to
> JW>   teach  me  >  how to dress and perform all of my daily activities,
> JW>   except getting in > and out of my chair from the floor."
>
> JW>   >  So,  not  only  is  the  PT  profession  saying that they teach
> JW>   self-care,  >  magazine articles are doing it as well. By the way,
> JW>   this  is  not  the  >  first  time  I read about PT teaching daily
> JW>   activity.
>
> JW>   > Ron
>
> JW>   >
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