great hints Frans, I've used some of them right now too ... It's never too
late to learn something (literal translation of a typical italian saying)

On Thu, Apr 16, 2009 at 2:10 PM, Frans Stekelenburg
<frans.stekelenb...@netdialog.eu> wrote:

> Jim,
>
> You already received some good feedback.
>
> According your scenario as described, OTRS works straight forward to the
> way you desire:
>
> A 'servicedesk QUEUE' that receives all the cases (possibly also tier-2
> reassign back to this Queue), and from there MOVING (reassigning, changing)
> to the proper specialist queue (tier-2).  I think move/assigning to queue
> will have the desired outcome (no need I think to have a "group agent" to
> set ownership to (by default), but still this IS an option).
>
> You are, as far as I can see, facing some issues with functionality as
> "locking" and "ownership". A few tweaks may come in handy.
>
>
> Locking
> -------
> The functionality has been previously explained. There are a few settings
> you could tweak to your needs however. Even to view _always_ the 'locked'
> state tickets, however this would blur the overview on cases actually
> needing action from someone- in queue view! There is a script, by the way,
> to unlock tickets automatically (can be scheduled as needed).
>
>
> You can set the following options, that I think may help you in fine tuning
> to your needs:
>
> As Admin in sysconfig under 'Ticket -> Core::Ticket'
>
>  # Ticket::EventModulePost###1-ForceStateChangeOnLock:
>  #   Ticket event module to force a new ticket state after lock action.
>  #   As key you have to define the current state and the next state as
>  #   content after lock action.
>
> Sets it from 'new' to 'open' by default
>
>  # Ticket::EventModulePost###1-ForceOwnerResetOnMove:
>  #   Ticket event module to reset and unlock the owner if ticket gets moved
> to another queue.
>
> Probably you already have set this - I think you need to!
>
>  # Ticket::EventModulePost###99-ForceUnlockOnMove:
>  #   Ticket event module to force tickets to be unlocked after moving to
> another queue.
> This also.
>
>  # Ticket::ViewableLocks:
>  #  Viewable locks. Default: unlock, tmp_lock.
> What tickets show up in overviews. Like I said before, I would not add
> locked here...
> To get a better overview, better use StateView (explained later) or search,
> or template search.
>
>  # Ticket::UnlockStateType:
>  #  The states for unlocked tickets.
>  #  You can unlock tickets with the script "bin/UnlockTickets.pl".
> This relates to the script that unlockes (as desired; hourly, daily....?)
>
>
> Perhaps also useful:
>
>  # Ticket::ViewableStateType:
>  # State types for a ticket to display.
>
>
> Your queue owners should I think see open or new cases, and assign them
> accordingly.
> If not agents themselves can take ownership (default scenario)
>
>
>
> StatusView
> ----------
> A very handy button to add next to QueueView, which by default is OFF.
> Set under SysConfig:  Ticket -> Frontend::Agent::ModuleRegistration
>
>  # Frontend::Module###AgentTicketStatusView:
>  #  Frontend module registration for the AgentTicketStatusView
>  #  object in the agent interface.
>  #  Ticket -> Frontend::Agent::Ticket::ViewStatus
>
>
> Search with templates
> ---------------------
> A function also not automatically set, but useful to us:
> Under   Ticket -> Frontend::Agent::NavBarModule
>
>   # Frontend::NavBarModule###1-Ticket::TicketSearchProfile:
>   #  Agent interface module to access search profiles via nav bar.
>
>
> Moving
> ------
> You likely have configured the agent/user profiles who can move_into, or
> not.
> You could change the default Move/Change to button behavior:
>
>  # Ticket::Frontend::MoveType:
>  # The queue selection can be shown in a dropdown list or in a new window.
>  # If "New Window" is set you can add a move note to the ticket.
>
> The position of the button/function is odd (and it shifts down).
> I am still looking into a way to have this button removed, or moved to the
> default action bar. Moving to a queue could also be done through let's say a
> 'Note' action.
>
>
>
> ACL
> ---
> For a certain restriction in workflow, not standard handled by OTRS you may
> want to look into the ACL functionality (e.g. 'Close' not an option in
> tier-2 queues, Move or possible queues to move to limited to.... customers,
> agents etc.)
>
> gr,
> Frans
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: otrs-boun...@otrs.org [mailto:otrs-boun...@otrs.org] On Behalf Of
> > James Burk
> > Sent: woensdag 15 april 2009 20:01
> > To: User questions and discussions about OTRS.
> > Subject: Re: [otrs] Queue View and Ticket Owner
> >
> > Hello Marco.  I apologize if I have over simplified your question.  But
> > this is how my organization creates and work tickets with OTRS.
> >
> > Our organization has decided that tier 1 (service desk) and tier 2
> > (advanced support groups) are Agents in OTRS.  All of these Agents are
> > assigned to Groups, and each Group is associated with a similarly named
> > Queue.  Our service desk receives calls from users, as most
> > organizations do, and SD uses client interface  Phone-ticket to create
> > tickets.  When they understand what Service is failing they select
> > that.
> >  We have the Services associated with the support Groups/Queue.  The SD
> > selects the Queue from the "To" field.  After all the pertinent
> > information is completed they Create and an email notification goes to
> > the user and to the Group to whom the ticket was assigned.  The tier 2
> > support Group then assigns to a particular Agent within the Group and
> > they resolve the ticket.
> >
> > As I think you know OTRS is also capable of accepting email from users,
> > and then filters them into the proper Queue.  We have decided not to
> > implement that capability at this time.
> >
> > Best regards,
> >
> > Jim
> >
> > >>> Marco Vannini <marco.vann...@gmail.com> 4/14/2009 4:59 PM >>>
> > It looks quite strange. unless it is not configured something strange
> > seem that SD sets agents too. Are you able to tell us how they do a
> > ticket ?  they sends email or they use the web interface  ? are they
> > otrs agents or customer ?
> >
> > Are you able to tell us how SD opens tickets
> >
> > On Tue, Apr 14, 2009 at 10:02 PM, James Burk <james.b...@dornc.com>
> > wrote:
> > > Thank you Marco.
> > >
> > > In our installation we have a rule that the Service Desk assigns
> > > tickets only at the Group level, not the Agent level.  That way
> > "Queue
> > > Monitors" for the Groups can then assign to the Agents and begin the
> > > work in progress.  As OTRS by default assigns the ticket creator as
> > the
> > > owner unless explicitly assigned, how will the queue monitors be able
> > to
> > > view the ticket in order to assign?  Yes, they will get a
> > notification
> > > that a ticket has been assigned to their group, but they won't be
> > able
> > > to view the queue.  Am I still missing something?
> > >
> > > Best regards,
> > >
> > > Jim
> > >
> > >>>> Marco Vannini <marco.vann...@gmail.com> 4/14/2009 3:31 PM >>>
> > > this is the manner that tickets are managed by otrs. It means that a
> > > ticket is in "work in progress" by the agent that has taken it.
> > >
> > > Listed in the browse windows mean that ticket are not owned by
> > anyone
> > > ("waiting to be worked") so not still in "wip" state
> > >
> > > On Tue, Apr 14, 2009 at 9:17 PM, James Burk <james.b...@dornc.com>
> > > wrote:
> > >> Thank you Leonardo.  You seem to be the only one in the community
> > > who
> > >> will answer my questions.
> > >>
> > >> It seems, however, the Agent must be the Owner of the ticket for it
> > > to
> > >> show up in the Queue.  Does this seem reasonable?
> > >> For example I have a group called security test group and an
> > > associated
> > >> queue, security test queue.  There are two agents in the group,
> > > myself
> > >> and a colleague.  When I create a ticket and by default the Owner
> > is
> > > me,
> > >> I can view the ticket.  When I create a ticket and assign Ownership
> > > to
> > >> my colleague, I cannot see the ticket in the Queue.  I can search
> > > and
> > >> find it, but it is not visible in the queue for me.
> > >>
> > >> Curious, eh?
> > >>
> > >> Regards,
> > >>
> > >> Jim
> > >>
> > >>>>> Leonardo Certuche <leonardo.certu...@itcon-ltda.com> 4/14/2009
> > >> 12:33 PM >>>
> > >> Hi there,
> > >>
> > >> Go to index.pl?Action=AdminUserGroup and associate each User(Agent)
> > > to
> > >> Groups. Then go to index.pl?Action=AdminQueue and associate each
> > > queue
> > >> to a
> > >> Group. When an user has access over a group, he will also have
> > > access
> > >> to the
> > >> queue associated to that group.
> > >>
> > >> Greetings,
> > >>
> > >> On Tue, Apr 14, 2009 at 10:01 AM, James Burk <james.b...@dornc.com>
> > >> wrote:
> > >>
> > >>> Hello all.
> > >>>
> > >>> I've implemented OTRS ITSM 1.2.3.  I've come across a situation I
> > >> can't
> > >>> explain.  It seems that only the Owner of a Ticket can see that
> > >> Ticket in
> > >>> the Queue View.  I want all Agents in the Group assigned to a
> > Queue
> > >> to be
> > >>> able to view those Tickets whether they are Owner or not.  How do
> > I
> > >> do this?
> > >>>
> > >>> Thanks and best regards,
> > >>>
> > >>> Jim
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>
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